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 Dec 6 2009, 10:42 PM
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 Owner and operator of Total Bastard Productions.  Posts: 14,826 Joined: 15-March 07 From: New Jersey, where the weak are killed and eaten. I Like: Minions. I Don't Like: Not having minions.  |
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Dec 9 2009, 03:11 PM
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 This Space for Rent Posts: 4,450 Joined: 15-March 07 From: 6 months outside of downtown 40 I Don't Like: Florida |
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Dec 9 2009, 11:54 PM
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 Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,481 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
Really liking the Jay Ferrar/Ben Gibbard project I mentioned earlier in the thread. Too lazy to scroll back and see ifg I posted this, but here's a really good concert they did a while back.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...oryId=114010246 -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Dec 10 2009, 10:58 AM
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 Ask me about my heath hen. Posts: 11,053 Joined: 15-March 07 From: Plowing your fields I Like: Sheep I Don't Like: The World Wide Web |
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Dec 10 2009, 12:32 PM
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 Member Posts: 1,773 Joined: 21-March 07 I Like: fish I Don't Like: jets |
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Dec 11 2009, 05:08 PM
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 Death from adjacent Posts: 14,892 Joined: 16-March 07 From: Jerktown - Population you. Also, me. I Like: bring my shuttle. I Don't Like: alert my Star Destroyer to--blah blah blah. |
-------------------- They say 'eh' instead of 'what' or 'duh'. That's the mighty power of Canada.
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Dec 11 2009, 05:09 PM
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 Luuuuuuuuuuuuuke Posts: 11,135 Joined: 9-December 07 From: Kentucky |
Hell yeah, Mike. Although Metropolis Zone is my favorite Sonic 2 song.
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Dec 13 2009, 07:22 PM
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 LIKE AMARE Posts: 25,032 Joined: 29-July 08 From: New Providence, NJ I Like: The Knicks! I Don't Like: Lebronakkah |
Hooray for mashups!
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Dec 13 2009, 08:17 PM
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 Member Posts: 346 Joined: 29-October 07 From: Planet Brutal I Like: Suffocation I Don't Like: Ill Nino |
Just bought:
 It's no Battles in the North, but it doesn't suck. 
-------------------- However, the fact remains that metal is itself far more important than the internet. Metal eats the internet for breakfast. And you know this. - www.metalhavenchicago.com
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Dec 13 2009, 08:31 PM
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Dec 13 2009, 09:17 PM
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 Rangerlands Eeyore! Posts: 32,390 Joined: 15-March 07 From: Running in the rain until I'm breathless I Like: The start of baseball season I Don't Like: The start of Mets season |
Toph, your music selection in general makes me wonder about you.
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"Hey, look. Somebody put the lead in the first paragraph." -- From Overheard in the Newsroom About another Reporter entering the newsroom after an intense interview: Reporter #1: “Look at him, he’s got that after-sex glow.” Reporter #2: “That’s the glow I get when a good story comes together.” -- Overheard in the Newsroom |
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Dec 13 2009, 09:26 PM
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model slash actor Posts: 13,496 Joined: 24-April 08 From: ny |
QUOTE(xcheck24 @ Dec 13 2009, 09:17 PM) Toph, your music selection in general makes me wonder about you. Yeaaaaah, I have no shame, I listen to crappy pop music. |
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Dec 13 2009, 09:41 PM
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Rangerlands Eeyore! Posts: 32,390 Joined: 15-March 07 From: Running in the rain until I'm breathless I Like: The start of baseball season I Don't Like: The start of Mets season |
QUOTE(toph @ Dec 13 2009, 09:26 PM) Yeaaaaah, I have no shame, I listen to crappy pop music. I have a soft spot for crappy pop music too, but I at least try to hide it.
-------------------- Behind the Press
"Hey, look. Somebody put the lead in the first paragraph." -- From Overheard in the Newsroom About another Reporter entering the newsroom after an intense interview: Reporter #1: “Look at him, he’s got that after-sex glow.” Reporter #2: “That’s the glow I get when a good story comes together.” -- Overheard in the Newsroom |
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Dec 13 2009, 09:43 PM
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 Death's Grim Herald Posts: 6,682 Joined: 15-March 07 From: Over the Hill I Like: New York in June, How 'bout you? I Don't Like: Mondays. |
This video clip was shot by someone in the audience at our 2nd Annual Na Mele o na Keiki (Music for the Children) Toys for Tots Holiday Concert last Wednesday evening here in Honolulu. The young man in the black shirt is Jake Shimabukuro, and he's playing a custom-built Kamaka ukulele (yes, an ukulele!) along with our U.S. Marine Corps Forces Pacific Band. Jake's an acknowledged virtuoso on the ukulele (the name literally means dancing flea, because of the way the fingers dance across the string when played properly). They were performing a modern arrangement of "Carol of the Bells." I wish you could see the whole band and the whole song in this (and you will, eventually, when our video production folks finish the editing of our five-camera shoot of the concert, with the audio taken directly off the mixing board). Hope you enjoy this!
This post has been edited by Giac: Dec 16 2009, 12:40 AM -------------------- "Hey, you kids!! Get off my lawn!!!!"
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Dec 15 2009, 08:14 PM
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Death from adjacent Posts: 14,892 Joined: 16-March 07 From: Jerktown - Population you. Also, me. I Like: bring my shuttle. I Don't Like: alert my Star Destroyer to--blah blah blah. |
-------------------- They say 'eh' instead of 'what' or 'duh'. That's the mighty power of Canada.
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Dec 16 2009, 09:57 AM
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 Member Posts: 1,871 Joined: 16-March 07 From: Gotham City I Like: Harley Quinn I Don't Like: The God Damn Batman |
Been itching to replay Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. So I've had it's music in my head lately.
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Dec 16 2009, 06:04 PM
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 Lives the mediocrity Posts: 2,156 Joined: 27-July 08 From: Parts Unknown I Like: Bourbon I Don't Like: Most Things That Aren't Bourbon |
The Adicts, for some fucking reason. I'm kind of ashamed of myself.
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Dec 17 2009, 12:52 AM
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 Goodbye, sweetie. Posts: 10,992 Joined: 29-April 08 From: No. I Like: No. I Don't Like: No. |
It's a fan-made video. Sucked me back into liking this song. I tried, but I can't resist it.
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Dec 17 2009, 03:59 PM
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 Stealth Cow Posts: 684 Joined: 18-March 07 From: Moo York I Like: Pie I Don't Like: nosey questions.. |
QUOTE(Bleedin-Blue @ Dec 1 2009, 07:59 PM) Pelican. They're kinda like a stoner rock/metal instrumental group that play long, drawn-out songs. I picked them up on Sirius a few years ago and their stuff is pretty good. March to the Sea is my favorite. It's damn long too! Pelican Is awesome. Their EP and First 2 albums are sick. Especially the song Drought. If you like Pelican, check out Red sparowes, Torche, Big business, Tomahawk.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diMHtsrBiR0 |
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Dec 17 2009, 04:59 PM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,481 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
Whoa, the Low Anthem.
http://www.myspace.com/lowanthem I had heard bits of their stuff on the radio, but never sat down to listen through their catalog before. Pretty wild mix here, from distortion-laden shouting, to mellower folksy stuff, to something that sounds like a choral arrangement you'd hear in church on Sunday. I'm definitely intrigued. -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Dec 18 2009, 10:13 AM
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Lives the mediocrity Posts: 2,156 Joined: 27-July 08 From: Parts Unknown I Like: Bourbon I Don't Like: Most Things That Aren't Bourbon |
Boris. Kind of ambient noise-rock. Worth the listen!
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Dec 18 2009, 11:36 AM
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 Traverses the Haptic Void Posts: 2,395 Joined: 11-December 08 From: Wilmington, NC I Like: to move it move it I Don't Like: stompin' on Jesus |
QUOTE(HandsomeSam @ Dec 18 2009, 10:13 AM) Boris. Kind of ambient noise-rock. Worth the listen! Boris gives us the ultimate nerd eye candy with Wata and her stack of Orange amps. Have you heard their collaboration with Sunn O)))? 
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Dec 18 2009, 11:39 AM
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Lives the mediocrity Posts: 2,156 Joined: 27-July 08 From: Parts Unknown I Like: Bourbon I Don't Like: Most Things That Aren't Bourbon |
QUOTE(the old mole @ Dec 18 2009, 12:36 PM) Boris gives us the ultimate nerd eye candy with Wata and her stack of Orange amps. Have you heard their collaboration with Sunn O)))? No, where can I find it?! That is some awesome, nerdly eye-candy. -------------------- The parties are advised to chill.
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Dec 18 2009, 11:59 AM
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Ask me about my heath hen. Posts: 11,053 Joined: 15-March 07 From: Plowing your fields I Like: Sheep I Don't Like: The World Wide Web |
QUOTE(Mike B. @ Dec 17 2009, 04:59 PM) Whoa, the Low Anthem. http://www.myspace.com/lowanthem I had heard bits of their stuff on the radio, but never sat down to listen through their catalog before. Pretty wild mix here, from distortion-laden shouting, to mellower folksy stuff, to something that sounds like a choral arrangement you'd hear in church on Sunday. I'm definitely intrigued. Yeah, another great folk rock album that came out this year. It didn't quite crack my top ten but I still really enjoyed it. -------------------- |
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Dec 18 2009, 12:14 PM
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This Space for Rent Posts: 4,450 Joined: 15-March 07 From: 6 months outside of downtown 40 I Don't Like: Florida |
Speaking of ambient noise rock
Zechs Marquise has been getting some more airplay from me as of late. Pretty interesting stuff, not to mention a 'not sure if its disturbing or not album' cover. 
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Dec 18 2009, 01:29 PM
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Stealth Cow Posts: 684 Joined: 18-March 07 From: Moo York I Like: Pie I Don't Like: nosey questions.. |
Boris Puts on a great live show.
Heavy Rocks! Check out Six organs of admittance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQaan-6N-hk I'd say it's somewhere between Pelican and explosions in the sky, just more acoustic. |
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Dec 19 2009, 01:11 AM
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 The Dude Posts: 16,134 Joined: 31-March 07 From: West Tennessee I Like: Bowling I Don't Like: Marmots |
It's kinda old, but this video gives me chills every time, especially when they simulate a suicide bomber near the end. Imo it's one of the best videos of all time. OF ALL TIME! No, seriously, it's that good. This post has been edited by Knight of Dight: Dec 19 2009, 01:13 AM -------------------- QUOTE(Dunc @ Dec 10 2008, 06:15 PM) It's Ned's fetish of choice. Some folks like to f#%$ with latex, Ned likes to f#%$ with his lineup.  |
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Dec 19 2009, 09:56 AM
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 Jiu Jit-sous chef. Posts: 4,105 Joined: 18-March 07 From: Not losing a baby, that's fersure. I Like: Idiosyncrasies I Don't Like: Absolutes |
Wow. That is pretty good.
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Dec 19 2009, 02:15 PM
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This Space for Rent Posts: 4,450 Joined: 15-March 07 From: 6 months outside of downtown 40 I Don't Like: Florida |
Like him or not Serj Tankian is really quite talented.
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Dec 19 2009, 07:21 PM
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LIKE AMARE Posts: 25,032 Joined: 29-July 08 From: New Providence, NJ I Like: The Knicks! I Don't Like: Lebronakkah |
QUOTE(Puckforbrains @ Dec 19 2009, 02:15 PM) Like him or not Serj Tankian is really quite talented. And does great collaborations with Wyclef! -------------------- Wade Redden is my hero, and shall be revered forever.
QUOTE(bloodorange @ Jun 22 2010, 05:22 PM) On this point, I agree with xcdude. |
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Dec 20 2009, 09:34 AM
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 Member Posts: 3,389 Joined: 19-April 07 I Like: Bat nips |
QUOTE(Puckforbrains @ Dec 19 2009, 07:15 PM) Like him or not Serj Tankian is really quite talented. In fact, I wouldnt havent been able to decifer that from a System of a Down song.. Am I ignorant to Sytem of a Downs or is Serj Tankian just the MAN? |
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Dec 20 2009, 01:03 PM
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Is too busy toiling in the fields to paint a beard and straw hat Posts: 1,595 Joined: 16-March 07 From: Toiling in the fields... I Like: Toiling in the fields I Don't Like: Having stones cast at him |
Serj is the fucking MAN!
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Dec 20 2009, 11:27 PM
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Jiu Jit-sous chef. Posts: 4,105 Joined: 18-March 07 From: Not losing a baby, that's fersure. I Like: Idiosyncrasies I Don't Like: Absolutes |
QUOTE(Chris4 @ Dec 20 2009, 09:34 AM) In fact, I wouldnt havent been able to decifer that from a System of a Down song.. Am I ignorant to Sytem of a Downs or is Serj Tankian just the MAN? I dunno, the structure and everything was relatively bland on that song. There was nothing besides the vocals that popped out at me- it was better than I expected, but it didn't sound like a "complete" System of a Down song. -------------------- One long pure beautiful road of pain
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Dec 21 2009, 09:02 AM
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This Space for Rent Posts: 4,450 Joined: 15-March 07 From: 6 months outside of downtown 40 I Don't Like: Florida |
QUOTE(Pymonte @ Dec 20 2009, 11:27 PM) I dunno, the structure and everything was relatively bland on that song. There was nothing besides the vocals that popped out at me- it was better than I expected, but it didn't sound like a "complete" System of a Down song. Being he played the majority of the instruments on this album, I'll go as far to say he is SOAD. He produced it as well. Not too mention, his lyrics are well thought out and articulate. More intelligent and thought provoking than any Nickelback track. -------------------- |
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Dec 21 2009, 09:16 AM
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Jiu Jit-sous chef. Posts: 4,105 Joined: 18-March 07 From: Not losing a baby, that's fersure. I Like: Idiosyncrasies I Don't Like: Absolutes |
QUOTE(Puckforbrains @ Dec 21 2009, 09:02 AM) Being he played the majority of the instruments on this album, I'll go as far to say he is SOAD. He produced it as well. Not too mention, his lyrics are well thought out and articulate. More intelligent and thought provoking than any Nickelback track. I've taken shits that are more intelligent and thought-provoking than any Nickelback track. I'm taking nothing away from the vocal part, but the instrumentation in that track is completely vanilla, especially compared to earlier System. There's zero experimentation. Listen to "Sugar" and then listen to that, and it doesn't sound like it's the same guitarist. Notice the tempo changes, notice that there is more going on with the guitar than accentuating the vocals, notice that the drums literally follow the same pattern throughout the song. At no point in the song do the instruments take center stage, which they have generally done in SOAD songs. And if you listen to the drums on "Spiders," and then this, you'll understand what I'm saying. There's a distinct difference. This post has been edited by Pymonte: Dec 21 2009, 09:29 AM -------------------- One long pure beautiful road of pain
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Dec 21 2009, 06:15 PM
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The Dude Posts: 16,134 Joined: 31-March 07 From: West Tennessee I Like: Bowling I Don't Like: Marmots |
Meh, Nickelback's Silver Side Up album was okay. After that, they sold out and became "mainstream." I can't stand their stuff now.
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Dec 22 2009, 12:04 AM
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Jiu Jit-sous chef. Posts: 4,105 Joined: 18-March 07 From: Not losing a baby, that's fersure. I Like: Idiosyncrasies I Don't Like: Absolutes |
QUOTE(Knight of Dight @ Dec 21 2009, 06:15 PM) Meh, Nickelback's Silver Side Up album was okay. After that, they sold out and became "mainstream." I can't stand their stuff now. 
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Dec 22 2009, 06:58 AM
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This Space for Rent Posts: 4,450 Joined: 15-March 07 From: 6 months outside of downtown 40 I Don't Like: Florida |
QUOTE(Pymonte @ Dec 21 2009, 09:16 AM) I've taken shits that are more intelligent and thought-provoking than any Nickelback track. I'm taking nothing away from the vocal part, but the instrumentation in that track is completely vanilla, especially compared to earlier System. There's zero experimentation. Listen to "Sugar" and then listen to that, and it doesn't sound like it's the same guitarist. Notice the tempo changes, notice that there is more going on with the guitar than accentuating the vocals, notice that the drums literally follow the same pattern throughout the song. At no point in the song do the instruments take center stage, which they have generally done in SOAD songs. And if you listen to the drums on "Spiders," and then this, you'll understand what I'm saying. There's a distinct difference. I see your point - there is a difference - and Nickelback was an exaggerated example. According to a few articles, this album was all Serj - not much involvement from any other musicians. So, no, it's not the same drummer or guitar player. -------------------- |
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Dec 22 2009, 08:49 AM
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 Member Posts: 201 Joined: 14-August 08 From: White Plains, NY I Like: the salary cap I Don't Like: over paying for players |
Started listening to Starsailor again. I remember when their first single "Good Souls" came out when I was in high school, I bought their first CD "Love is Here," and listened to it a whole lot. Then I over played it, like I sometimes tend to do with things I really like, and got a little sick of them. I didn't keep up with their follow up albums and, fast forward to the present, I pretty much forgot that the band even existed.
This week, I randomly decided to sift through my old CD booklet (which I've neglected ever since mp3s, ipods and vinyl took over my musical-life). I came across their first CD and decided to give it a listen, to see if I still enjoyed it after all that time removed. Well, I did enjoy it, but what really re-sold me on the band was Youtube. The lead singer's name is "James Walsh" and if you Youtube search "James Walsh Acoustic" or something along those lines, you'll find a bunch of live acoustic versions of their songs. And to me, this is the format which really shows how great the band, particularly singer/songwriter James Walsh is. If you enjoy acoustic music, this guy James Walsh writes some amazing songs. And his voice is just out of control good. Their studio recordings and "full band" stuff is good also, but for me, just him singing and playing acoustic guitar is where it's at. suggested youtube videos 1. Cover of U2's "all i want is you" 2. acoustic "all the plans we made" 3. acoustic "tell me it's not over" 4. acoustic cover of Dion's "born to be with you" into Elton John's "rocket man" 5. acoustic "coming down" Starsailor - Wikipedia This post has been edited by jmnyr14: Dec 22 2009, 08:50 AM |
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Dec 22 2009, 06:29 PM
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Jiu Jit-sous chef. Posts: 4,105 Joined: 18-March 07 From: Not losing a baby, that's fersure. I Like: Idiosyncrasies I Don't Like: Absolutes |
QUOTE(Puckforbrains @ Dec 22 2009, 06:58 AM) I see your point - there is a difference - and Nickelback was an exaggerated example. According to a few articles, this album was all Serj - not much involvement from any other musicians. So, no, it's not the same drummer or guitar player. Yeah. Like I said, I like the song, I just think there's a tangible difference. -------------------- One long pure beautiful road of pain
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Dec 22 2009, 07:57 PM
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Death from adjacent Posts: 14,892 Joined: 16-March 07 From: Jerktown - Population you. Also, me. I Like: bring my shuttle. I Don't Like: alert my Star Destroyer to--blah blah blah. |
Let the cheesiness of a 1980's FRENCH-CANADIAN video take control. Beware black-and-white ambulances driven by TIE fighter pilots! They will take you to the science hospital! -------------------- They say 'eh' instead of 'what' or 'duh'. That's the mighty power of Canada.
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Dec 22 2009, 11:47 PM
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Owner and operator of Total Bastard Productions. Posts: 14,826 Joined: 15-March 07 From: New Jersey, where the weak are killed and eaten. I Like: Minions. I Don't Like: Not having minions. |
This is why we keep you around Blue.
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Dec 23 2009, 08:28 AM
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 EtymoloJesus Posts: 28,060 Joined: 15-March 07 I Like: Max the Knight I Don't Like: Garbage-eating enemies |
QUOTE(Nilan 666 @ Dec 22 2009, 11:47 PM) This is why we keep you around Blue. At :05, I think that we get to see the inspiration for Dermott from Venture Bros. -------------------- |
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Dec 23 2009, 11:29 PM
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Traverses the Haptic Void Posts: 2,395 Joined: 11-December 08 From: Wilmington, NC I Like: to move it move it I Don't Like: stompin' on Jesus |
OK...I finally listened to the Dirty Projectors album. Finally the hipsters are listening to Squeeze! Wasn't crazy about it, but I didn't hate it, either--it didn't live up to the hype, but nothing ever does. I shouldn't let that cloud my judgment. It definitely sounds like it will be an epochal album, but the whole time I shifted between "hm, that sounds interesting" and "god, that's obnoxious." I especially didn't like the female singers Beach Boys (Girls?)-ing it up all over every song.
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Dec 24 2009, 11:34 AM
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 Co-Founder of Karaoke and Roll Posts: 20,565 Joined: 20-March 07 I Like: John Stamos I Don't Like: Derek |
The White album on vinyl.
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Dec 24 2009, 12:42 PM
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This Space for Rent Posts: 4,450 Joined: 15-March 07 From: 6 months outside of downtown 40 I Don't Like: Florida |
QUOTE(SorryaboutthatWhoa @ Dec 24 2009, 11:34 AM) The White album on vinyl. Yeah I guess you got your TT fixed? -------------------- |
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Dec 24 2009, 01:14 PM
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Co-Founder of Karaoke and Roll Posts: 20,565 Joined: 20-March 07 I Like: John Stamos I Don't Like: Derek |
QUOTE(Puckforbrains @ Dec 24 2009, 12:42 PM) I guess you got your TT fixed? Nah. Playing wasn't the problem, the needle just doesn't take itself off the record like it's supposed to at the end, which also means I can't stack up records and have them auto play through them. I can still play em as long as i take the needle off at the end of the record |
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Dec 24 2009, 01:54 PM
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This Space for Rent Posts: 4,450 Joined: 15-March 07 From: 6 months outside of downtown 40 I Don't Like: Florida |
QUOTE(SorryaboutthatWhoa @ Dec 24 2009, 01:14 PM) Nah. Playing wasn't the problem, the needle just doesn't take itself off the record like it's supposed to at the end, which also means I can't stack up records and have them auto play through them. I can still play em as long as i take the needle off at the end of the record bit of a pain but not too bad - what player do you have that is a stacker? -------------------- |
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Dec 24 2009, 03:50 PM
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Co-Founder of Karaoke and Roll Posts: 20,565 Joined: 20-March 07 I Like: John Stamos I Don't Like: Derek |
I'm kind of new to this stuff it sort of fell in my lap but it's a Sylvania from 1968. It's one of those big console untis
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Dec 26 2009, 06:42 PM
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Death from adjacent Posts: 14,892 Joined: 16-March 07 From: Jerktown - Population you. Also, me. I Like: bring my shuttle. I Don't Like: alert my Star Destroyer to--blah blah blah. |
Fucking awesome. Probably...PROBABLY my favorite Exodus song. -------------------- They say 'eh' instead of 'what' or 'duh'. That's the mighty power of Canada.
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