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[Kusand]

edit: sorry Kusand, went off on this tear before you responded...I thought for sure you were going to come back with reasons why umpires are completely unnecessary.

Hah. In the long term, I do think they're unnecessary in the sense that they're replaceable. A lot of what they do could be replaced by magic sufficiently advanced technology. I'm sure there's a long and brutal list of edge cases that would still require a guy in a booth or hanging out on the field to resolve, even with that tech. But basically my viewpoint is that umpires are adding more subjectivity to a game that is ultimately the most objective of sports.

[Kusand]

I apologized in an edit, my bad.

I know.

Ihate the post season because iknew this argument would arise. I don't know why it gets me so angry but it does.

I don't know how to explain it but baseball was made with umpires being a part of the game. I can understand the need and want for accuracy but I don't understand the movement to eliminate them.

I'm really not trying to be antagonistic here, but do you seriously believe that umpires are essential to the fabric of baseball? That the sport requires them? I would think they exist only because a bunch of competitive dudes are not going to show enough sportsmanship to actually call themselves out fairly, and having a guy stand there to watch the rules is the best thing you can do in the late 1800s. I think they're a relic of a long-gone era where they really were the best and only way to enforce the rules.

[Tex]

will the Sprint umps be better than the Verizon or T-mobile umps? Will George Lucas get royalties from the new Droid umps?

[teddyc]

sufficiently advanced technology.

They could do a lot of things with sensors in gloves, shoes and on the bags etc. Magic Eyes like in Tennis for the batters box and foul lines.

This would take years for this to pass and they would of course test it in the minors for several years and need player approval etc....but eventually technology could take over most of what is judged on the field.

As I say all this, please understand that I really don't have a problem with the umpires as it stands now. I really believe things even out on balls and strikes. Yes...a bump in replay would resolve 99% of the wrong calls. But I believe this will happen within a few years. With the camera work we have now an eye in the sky could resolve a lot of issues with a buzz down to the field.
But until then...get over it. Shit happens. YES...even if it happens to my team. I don't have money on these games and my only stake is entertainment. Sucks for the teams when shit happens....but they'll live to cash in their fat checks and charge fans ridiculous amounts of money for anything related to the game. I can't get all worked up about it.

[Sed]

I'm really not trying to be antagonistic here, but do you seriously believe that umpires are essential to the fabric of baseball? That the sport requires them?

Who else will check for rain?

[Paul Smachetti]

I've already lost interest in all of this.

Tampa looks dead in the water. Though they can win on the road and you know Texas is gonna be PUMPED for their first chance to clinch a series. The Rangers might be squeezing the bats a little tight tomorrow being in uncharted waters so who knows what'll happen.

Also, I have to have one of the Twins jerseys that they wore last night. Those things are fucking classic.

Those are their 60's jerseys. They're sweet. Go to Ebay and you can find a Joe Mauer one for $40 on a Buy It Now. They're authentics all sewn on numbers patches and crest .

[xcdudesquadloves...]

Those are their 60's jerseys. They're sweet. Go to Ebay and you can find a Joe Mauer one for $40 on a Buy It Now. They're authentics all sewn on numbers patches and crest .

That's too good to be true. I bet its a fake. Can you link it? I would love to be proven wrong

[xcheck24]

Sorry, we had to face the best pitcher in the National League. We drew a walk, what more do you want?!

Shake it off and beat the snot out of the Phillies tonight.
I'm just worried what kind of tone Halladay set the other night. As a Phillies hater, it worries me the Reds won't be able to overcome it.

[Bleedin-Blue]

No way. Cincy's getting swept. They're a nice story and all but getting stuck with the Flyers was a terrible match for them. The young and inexperienced playoff teams never make it through to the next round. I'd be shocked if they win a game. Shocked. Don't get me wrong, I'm pulling HARD for the Reds but I don't see them doing anything against such a strong team.

[SorryaboutthatWh...]

No way. Cincy's getting swept. They're a nice story and all but getting stuck with the Flyers was a terrible match for them.

Seriously, you would think a baseball team getting to play a hockey team in the first round would favor the baseball team. Who knew.

[Bleedin-Blue]

Oh. Whoops. You can see where my mind is at. Still, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, YOU TOOLBOX. I hope you fall off your fucking raft.

[SorryaboutthatWh...]

Oh. Whoops. You can see where my mind is at. Still, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, YOU TOOLBOX. I hope you fall off your fucking raft.

Blue's gettin angry on a friday evening
oh what a terrible sight to see
I corrected him so he's mad at meeeeeeeee
sittin there and pickin on my chicken on a raft.

HI-YO CHICKEN ON A RAFT!!

[xcheck24]

[xcheck24]

As for the Reds, YOU NEVER KNOW!
I refuse to give up hope someone will smack the snot out of the Phillies. Maybe Lincecum can do something about this.

[Bleedin-Blue]

Just for the record, I love that stupid song. I don't know why but I do. It will now be stuck in my head for the rest of the evening. Great.

[xcheck24]

Just think. There's a verse dedicated to you now. Heh.

[Dr. D]

I am unbelievably pissed right now. More pissed than I was after the Jokinen SO attempt last season in Philly.

The Phillies are up and down a much better team than the Reds. And if they put a beating on us with good hitting and pitching I wouldn't be so mad. But when we have four god damn errors that erase a 4-0 lead, I get incensed. This game should still be 4-0.

[SorryaboutthatWh...]

I am unbelievably pissed right now. More pissed than I was after the Jokinen SO attempt last season in Philly.

The Phillies are up and down a much better team than the Reds. And if they put a beating on us with good hitting and pitching I wouldn't be so mad. But when we have four god damn errors that erase a 4-0 lead, I get incensed. This game should still be 4-0.

I'm torn here. I really hate the Phillies, but you were insufferable during the Mets series, so...enjoy watching the Yankees next round.

[xcheck24]

I'm not sure what to think of Jason Werth and his beard/hair.

[Dr. D]

I'm torn here. I really hate the Phillies, but you were insufferable during the Mets series, so...enjoy watching the Yankees next round.

Hey look, the Reds aren't irrelevant anymore. We're a laughingstock now. So yeah, you can stick that in your pipe and smoke it while you watch Jay Bruce not make that catch on SportsCenter and laugh along with everyone else.

[Paul Smachetti]

Hey look, the Reds aren't irrelevant anymore. We're a laughingstock now. So yeah, you can stick that in your pipe and smoke it while you watch Jay Bruce not make that catch on SportsCenter and laugh along with everyone else.

This is the Reds team that set the alltime team record for fewest errors in a season and we're talking about the team that had Concepcion, Perez, Bench,and Rose playing defense all those years. Rolen is automatic out there so what happens? They looked like a freakin' Little League team out there.

[Paul Smachetti]

That's too good to be true. I bet its a fake. Can you link it? I would love to be proven wrong

http://cgi.ebay.com/HARMON-KILLEBREW-MINNE...=item3a5f5adeac

http://cgi.ebay.com/JOE-MAUER-7-Twins-Auth...=item3f03b0c713

These do not appear to be Chinese knockoffs

[Bleedin-Blue]

Those look like phony Mitchell and Ness jerseys. Just look at the other crap he has for sale. It all looks awful so I would imagine this is more of the same.

EDIT: The first link I mean. I don't know about the second one. Maybe. The price is concerning though. If it was genuine, why hasn't anyone bid on it?

Those jerseys actually look better than the Reds did last night though. What the fuck WAS that? Because it wasn't baseball, that's for sure.

This post has been edited by Bleedin-Blue: Oct 9 2010, 11:13 AM

[Paul Smachetti]

Those look like phony Mitchell and Ness jerseys. Just look at the other crap he has for sale. It all looks awful so I would imagine this is more of the same.

EDIT: The first link I mean. I don't know about the second one. Maybe. The price is concerning though. If it was genuine, why hasn't anyone bid on it?

Those jerseys actually look better than the Reds did last night though. What the fuck WAS that? Because it wasn't baseball, that's for sure.

If I can get the Mauer for a $10 bid and it turns out be crap no big loss. Might get lucky and get a $180 retail jersey for peanuts.
BTW LMK if you plan on bidding on it, then I won't

This post has been edited by Paul Smachetti: Oct 9 2010, 01:18 PM

[Bleedin-Blue]

Nope. I wouldn't bother if I were you though. That material is awfully shiny looking and that's a big giveaway to the fakes. Usually, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

[toph]

Nope. I wouldn't bother if I were you though. That material is awfully shiny looking and that's a big giveaway to the fakes. Usually, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Which is weirder: Your avatar is a pornstar whose specialty is anal or that I recognized this pornstar on sight and know what she's known for?

[Paul Smachetti]

Nope. I wouldn't bother if I were you though. That material is awfully shiny looking and that's a big giveaway to the fakes. Usually, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

The material on either didn't strike me as being too shiny. The pics aren't that great. You know more about this stuff than I do though. I still may take a shot at it. I could possibly get it for $1.99

[Bleedin-Blue]

Man, this sucks. Tony Gwynn has cancer.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5665646

[SorryaboutthatWh...]

Kusand, you're normally good for this, .gif of yankees first base coach getting hit in the nuts?

[Paul Smachetti]

The material on either didn't strike me as being too shiny. The pics aren't that great. You know more about this stuff than I do though. I still may take a shot at it. I could possibly get it for $1.99

I was watching the Yankee game and lost track of the time. Could've had it for $1.99! The seller was charging $30 to ship it though

[xcdudesquadloves...]

Dead Reds,

Letting Cole Hamels win is like letting the Terrorists win. Its just not right for America.

xcdude

[Dr. D]

Dead Reds,

Letting Cole Hamels win is like letting the Terrorists win. Its just not right for America.

xcdude

[Dr. D]

6 outs left. We just can't get to Hamels.

[Bleedin-Blue]

Seven errors in three games will not get it done. It's definitely a learning experience for them though. If they get back next year, which they should considering how bad the NL Central is, then they'll be a better team for it.

[Dr. D]

Seven errors in three games will not get it done. It's definitely a learning experience for them though. If they get back next year, which they should considering how bad the NL Central is, then they'll be a better team for it.

Problem is that the vets have been making these errors. Phillips and Rolen both had two I think in Game 2, Rolen had another tonight, and Cabrera did as well. Those are our sure-handed veterans who fucked up. Rolen and Cabrera both have rings too. Hard to swallow those guys screwing up.

3 outs...c'mon boys let's stay alive.

[Bleedin-Blue]

They had a chance until Bruce blew that catch in Game 2. After that, the series was effectively over. Still, it's good to see meaningful October games in the old school cities like Cincinnati and San Francisco.

Speaking of, the Braves booted themselves out of a win this afternoon. From what I've seen, it's been a really good series so far. I didn't get to see the whole game today because I kept getting flak for turning off the Cowboys game.

[Kusand]

They had a chance until Bruce blew that catch in Game 2. After that, the series was effectively over. Still, it's good to see meaningful October games in the old school cities like Cincinnati and San Francisco.

Speaking of, the Braves booted themselves out of a win this afternoon. From what I've seen, it's been a really good series so far. I didn't get to see the whole game today because I kept getting flak for turning off the Cowboys game.

Brooks Conrad booted them out of a win. Sigh. If Chipper and Prado aren't dead, he's not even in the game.

[Dr. D]

They had a chance until Bruce blew that catch in Game 2. After that, the series was effectively over. Still, it's good to see meaningful October games in the old school cities like Cincinnati and San Francisco.

Speaking of, the Braves booted themselves out of a win this afternoon. From what I've seen, it's been a really good series so far. I didn't get to see the whole game today because I kept getting flak for turning off the Cowboys game.

Well, in Bruce's defense, he just lost it in the lights, which Philly players says happens a lot. Tough break for the kid, he's been a Gold Glover out there all year.

Pacing. Bottom of the ninth. Do or die.

[xcheck24]

When the hell did Hamels decide to pitch well?

[teddyc]

When the hell did Hamels decide to pitch well?

He saw Mr Miyagi-san

or something like that

[Bleedin-Blue]

Fuck Philly.

You know, as good as the Phillies pitchers look right now, they're not invincible. The Giants can definitely pitch with them if they can get by the Braves. Lincecum was unreal on Thursday night and then Sanchez was pretty damn good today too. Philly isn't exactly knocking the cover off the ball either. GO GIANTS.

[Dr. D]

Thanks for a great season, guys. Really shitty way to end it, but that's baseball. Phillies are up and down a better team with a lot more postseason experience.

Go Reds.

[Kusand]

When the hell did Hamels decide to pitch well?

You mean the guy who's been pretty great since the All-Star Break? The starter with the second best ERA in the NL since then?

[xcheck24]

You mean the guy who's been pretty great since the All-Star Break? The starter with the second best ERA in the NL since then?

I know that. He's also the guy who consistently lost to the Mets all season and hasn't been that great of a pitcher over the last few years (I'm speaking as a matter of watching him...not his stats).

It's probably because they added two guys in front of him so the pressure was off.

[Paul Smachetti]

I know that. He's also the guy who consistently lost to the Mets all season and hasn't been that great of a pitcher over the last few years (I'm speaking as a matter of watching him...not his stats).

It's probably because they added two guys in front of him so the pressure was off.

I think it's more about what was in the article that was linked in above post. He was crappy in 2009.

[xcheck24]

I think it's more about what was in the article that was linked in above post. He was crappy in 2009.

You cannot discount having Halladay and Oswalt in front of him in the rotation. It takes off a huge amount of pressure to have someone like Halladay in front of you all season.

[Paul Smachetti]

You cannot discount having Halladay and Oswalt in front of him in the rotation. It takes off a huge amount of pressure to have someone like Halladay in front of you all season.

No you can't , but Oswalt came after he turned the corner, and you can't discount the work he put in to change his situation. Halladay and Oswalt are a small piece of the puzzle

[jburns]

I know you Mets fans are going to hate me, but man oh man, would I love to see Philly just fucking crush NY again. Crush. Embarrass. Destroy. Maim.

[xcheck24]

I know you Mets fans are going to hate me, but man oh man, would I love to see Philly just fucking crush NY again. Crush. Embarrass. Destroy. Maim.

What do you mean "crush NY again"? They didn't crush them the last time.

[SorryaboutthatWh...]

Seriously Burns, when they won in 2008 they beat Tampa Bay, and last year the Yankees handled them pretty easily, wasn't it a 4-1 series?

What are you talking about?