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| Would you ever consider trading Hank? |
 May 18 2011, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE OK, so we've talked about nearly every option the Philadelphia Flyers could explore regarding their goalie future. Most involve trading for a young goalie or signing one of the big free agents -- most notably Ilya Bryzgalov. However, is it possible they will trade for a top veteran goaltender? The Courier Post's Chuck Gormley writes, "There are whispers that they may make a pitch for Buffalo's Ryan Miller, the Rangers' Henrik Lundqvist, Calgary's Miikka Kiprusoff, Minnesota's Niklas Backstrom or, yes, New Jersey's Martin Brodeur." This is the first we're hearing of this and it sounds like pure speculation -- especially since the Flyers have strong options in Bryzgalov and Tomas Vokoun in free agency. In addition, trading for a high-priced veteran goalie makes little sense because the deal with not only cost the Flyers valuable assets, but it could also force them to cut payroll to get under the cap with their new goalie. If some team such as Philly would give up the farm to acquire Hank would you ever consider it? As crazy as it may sound, my answer would be yes. While it's always awesome to have a franchise goalie,and I certainly don't yearn for the days of Mike Dunham, there are teams that have succeeded without elite goalies. With that said, I'd only EVER consider it if we got something along the lines of Mike Richards, JVR and one of their three goalies in return. -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 02:34 PM
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Woof. Um. The conversation absolutely would have to start with Giroux AND Van Riemsdyk, in my opinion. And any package that doesn't get Giroux isn't worth it.
(Braces for impending HDH "I can take this to another thread but did I mention Sather drafted Sanguinetti #21") This post has been edited by Kusand: May 18 2011, 02:35 PM -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 02:36 PM
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Giroux, JVR, Bobvrosky, First round pick and maybe someone like Versteeg for Henrik.
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May 18 2011, 02:37 PM
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I'm fucking not fucking trading fucking Henrik fucking Lunqvuist to the fucking Flyers, fuck.
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May 18 2011, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(SorryaboutthatWhoa @ May 18 2011, 03:37 PM) I'm fucking not fucking trading fucking Henrik fucking Lunqvuist to the fucking Flyers, fuck. Even for Giroux and JVR? That is mighty, mighty delicious. -------------------- Fenway Park, in Boston, is a lyric little bandbox of a ballpark. Everything is painted green and seems in curiously sharp focus, like the inside of an old-fashioned peeping-type Easter egg. It was built in 1912 and rebuilt in 1934, and offers, as do most Boston artifacts, a compromise between Man's Euclidean determinations and Nature's beguiling irregularities. - John Updike |
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May 18 2011, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(SorryaboutthatWhoa @ May 18 2011, 03:37 PM) I'm fucking not fucking trading fucking Henrik fucking Lunqvuist to the fucking Flyers, fuck. This answer is also completely acceptable. -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(jburns @ May 18 2011, 03:40 PM) Even for Giroux and JVR? That is mighty, mighty delicious. The Flyers are deep enough that they can lose those two, imo. I don't want to give them a Stanley Cup. -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(Kusand @ May 18 2011, 03:40 PM) The Flyers are deep enough that they can lose those two, imo. I don't want to give them a Stanley Cup. But it would have to be more than two. I was just using them as the starting point. It's not happening, but it's interesting to see what it would take. -------------------- Fenway Park, in Boston, is a lyric little bandbox of a ballpark. Everything is painted green and seems in curiously sharp focus, like the inside of an old-fashioned peeping-type Easter egg. It was built in 1912 and rebuilt in 1934, and offers, as do most Boston artifacts, a compromise between Man's Euclidean determinations and Nature's beguiling irregularities. - John Updike |
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May 18 2011, 02:43 PM
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Please let them get Brodeur. This way I can hate him a little more and also he's pretty much done anyway.
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May 18 2011, 02:44 PM
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HA! I posted a long Lundqvist-to-the-Flyers trade scenario in the off-season thread after the Flyers were eliminated from the playoffs, but I then deleted it because I forgot how young Bobrovsky was and assumed they'll probably just want to keep going with him instead of making a major trade.
But I suggested Lundqvist for either Carter or Giroux plus two of van Reimsdyk, Richards, Leino, Versteeg or Hartnell. So let's say, Carter, Richards, Versteeg for Henrik. Biron's a pretty good goalie. Hm. Hmmm. -------------------- RIP Ass Dan, 1981-2010.
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May 18 2011, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(Rocha @ May 18 2011, 03:44 PM) So let's say, Carter, Richards, Versteeg for Henrik. Biron's a pretty good goalie. Hm. Hmmm. I think JVR would have to be in there for me to pull the trigger. But if he was? Hmmmmmmm. Biron is a pretty good goalie. Hmmm. -------------------- Fenway Park, in Boston, is a lyric little bandbox of a ballpark. Everything is painted green and seems in curiously sharp focus, like the inside of an old-fashioned peeping-type Easter egg. It was built in 1912 and rebuilt in 1934, and offers, as do most Boston artifacts, a compromise between Man's Euclidean determinations and Nature's beguiling irregularities. - John Updike |
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May 18 2011, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(Rocha @ May 18 2011, 03:44 PM) HA! I posted a long Lundqvist-to-the-Flyers trade scenario in the off-season thread after the Flyers were eliminated from the playoffs, but I then deleted it because I forgot how young Bobrovsky was and assumed they'll probably just want to keep going with him instead of making a major trade. But I suggested Lundqvist for either Carter or Giroux plus two of van Reimsdyk, Richards, Leino, Versteeg or Hartnell. So let's say, Carter, Richards, Versteeg for Henrik. Biron's a pretty good goalie. Hm. Hmmm. No way. Carter's good, but I want their leading scorer who's on a shorter-term RFA contract, not the guy on a contract through 2022. Gotta be Giroux. Also, with Richards as their captain, I just can't see them trading him. If it's, say, Giroux, Carter, JVR? I'd definitely have to consider that. This post has been edited by Kusand: May 18 2011, 02:48 PM -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 02:47 PM
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Member Posts: 20,729 Joined: 15-March 07 From: Boston, MA I Like: Nyquil I Don't Like: Dayquil |
QUOTE(Kusand @ May 18 2011, 03:40 PM) The Flyers are deep enough that they can lose those two, imo. I don't want to give them a Stanley Cup. But the fact that the Flyers can lose 2 or 3 of their top liners and still possibly compete for the cup is what makes this scenario worth speculative discussion in the first place. Flyers have a ton of quality young forwards but shitty goaltending. Rangers have good goaltending but a very underwhelming forward corps. Hmmm. -------------------- RIP Ass Dan, 1981-2010.
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May 18 2011, 02:48 PM
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If we signed a guy like Vokoun though? Meh I agree it's not happening, but seeing how teams have succeeded recently without elite goaltending ('07 Anaheim, arguably the Pens, the Wings, Blackhawks (Is Niemi truly elite?), it'd be something to at least consider.
I love Hank, but I do question at times what it would mean to have top flight talent with a mid-level goalie vs. the opposite we have now. -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 02:49 PM
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No thanks. Not to Philly.
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May 18 2011, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(Rocha @ May 18 2011, 03:44 PM) HA! I posted a long Lundqvist-to-the-Flyers trade scenario in the off-season thread after the Flyers were eliminated from the playoffs, but I then deleted it because I forgot how young Bobrovsky was and assumed they'll probably just want to keep going with him instead of making a major trade. But I suggested Lundqvist for either Carter or Giroux plus two of van Reimsdyk, Richards, Leino, Versteeg or Hartnell. So let's say, Carter, Richards, Versteeg for Henrik. Biron's a pretty good goalie. Hm. Hmmm. If Philadelphia called me with a Mike Richards, Jeff Van Reimsdyk, Claude Giroux and Sergei Bobrovsky for Henrik/Anisimov offer you bet your ass I take it. And I'm probably one of the biggest Lundqvist supporters here. -------------------- "I think Greatone is one more JKman talent evaluation or 101 trade proposal away from going on a killing spree."
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May 18 2011, 02:50 PM
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Giroux, Carter, JVR, a 1st and a 2nd. I think you almost have to do that.
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May 18 2011, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(Kusand @ May 18 2011, 03:50 PM) Giroux, Carter, JVR, a 1st and a 2nd. I think you almost have to do that. Yeah I do that. No hesitation. Although I would rather want Bobrovsky coming back instead of the picks. -------------------- "I think Greatone is one more JKman talent evaluation or 101 trade proposal away from going on a killing spree."
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May 18 2011, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(Kusand @ May 18 2011, 03:46 PM) No way. Carter's good, but I want their leading scorer who's on a shorter-term RFA contract, not the guy on a contract through 2022. Gotta be Giroux. Also, with Richards as their captain, I just can't see them trading him. If it's, say, Giroux, Carter, JVR? I'd definitely have to consider that. Carter's definitely the better goal scorer, though, and more likely to be moved because of his contract. Also, I don't think we could get both Giroux and Carter. Fair point about Richards. So let's say it's Carter, JVR and Versteeg. Or Carter, Leino, Hartnell. Would really have to think about it. I'd probably do it because, while it's certainly possible elite goalies Thomas and Luongo are gonna meet in the finals this year, the last half decade seems to have shown you really don't need the best goalie in the world to go deep in the playoffs. -------------------- RIP Ass Dan, 1981-2010.
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May 18 2011, 02:53 PM
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Member Posts: 20,729 Joined: 15-March 07 From: Boston, MA I Like: Nyquil I Don't Like: Dayquil |
QUOTE(jburns @ May 18 2011, 03:46 PM) I think JVR would have to be in there for me to pull the trigger. But if he was? Hmmmmmmm. Biron is a pretty good goalie. Hmmm. Hmmm. -------------------- RIP Ass Dan, 1981-2010.
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May 18 2011, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Kusand @ May 18 2011, 03:50 PM) Giroux, Carter, JVR, a 1st and a 2nd. I think you almost have to do that. Take out the second throw in Leino and you have the deal of the century. -------------------- Wade Redden is my hero, and shall be revered forever.
QUOTE(bloodorange @ Jun 22 2010, 05:22 PM) On this point, I agree with xcdude. |
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May 18 2011, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(Rocha @ May 18 2011, 03:53 PM) Carter's definitely the better goal scorer, though, and more likely to be moved because of his contract. Also, I don't think we could get both Giroux and Carter. Fair point about Richards. So let's say it's Carter, JVR and Versteeg. Or Carter, Leino, Hartnell. Would really have to think about it. I'd probably do it because, while it's certainly possible elite goalies Thomas and Luongo are gonna meet in the finals this year, the last half decade seems to have shown you really don't need the best goalie in the world to go deep in the playoffs. Leino is UFA and Hartnell is another borderline 2nd line guy. The Flyers are getting a top tier goalie -- I'm pretty sure we can request both Carter and Giroux. -------------------- "I think Greatone is one more JKman talent evaluation or 101 trade proposal away from going on a killing spree."
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May 18 2011, 02:55 PM
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Even with the sweet pieces coming back, I don't think I'd do it within the division...and ESPECIALLY not to fucking Philly. That's pretty much all the Flyers are missing for a Stanley Cup and I would HATE HATE HATE to have the Rangers give them that. But then, I can see the argument that what's coming FROM Philly is a lot of that significant core of players. Damn. That's tough.
EDIT: But holy FUCK would I kill to see van Riemsdyk in a Rangers jersey. This post has been edited by Bleedin-Blue: May 18 2011, 02:56 PM -------------------- They say 'eh' instead of 'what' or 'duh'. That's the mighty power of Canada.
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May 18 2011, 02:57 PM
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OMG, I'm salivating. See ya, Hank! Don't let the door hit you in the ass!
-------------------- Fenway Park, in Boston, is a lyric little bandbox of a ballpark. Everything is painted green and seems in curiously sharp focus, like the inside of an old-fashioned peeping-type Easter egg. It was built in 1912 and rebuilt in 1934, and offers, as do most Boston artifacts, a compromise between Man's Euclidean determinations and Nature's beguiling irregularities. - John Updike |
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May 18 2011, 02:59 PM
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Imagine the fun when Laviolette still plays goalie roulette once he gets Henke.
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May 18 2011, 03:01 PM
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I love how we are all running with this like its a possibility
 But is Giroux a center? Carter is better on the wing so if anything I'd want a top flight center coming back in any deal for Henrik. Dubinsky-Giroux-Gaborik -Stepan-Carter Van Riemsdyk-Anisimov-Callahan Prust-Boyle-Zuccarello -------------------- "I think Greatone is one more JKman talent evaluation or 101 trade proposal away from going on a killing spree."
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May 18 2011, 03:02 PM
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With regard to Richards, there was a blurb in the Puck Daddy news roundup that wondered if the Flyers were setting themselves up to trade Richards. So it's possible that a trade could include him.
I want to say that during the Philly/Boston series I heard similar statements from commentators, about how he could be traded, but I honestly can't remember, so I'll just assume I imagined it. |
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May 18 2011, 03:04 PM
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You guys do realize though that the instant Lundqvist is traded, he's winning a Stanley Cup elsewhere, right? You know it'll happen. That's just the way it is. Then, JVR will blow out both his achilles tendons; effectively ending his career, while Giroux overdoses on an eightball of cocaine in a hotel room underneath a pile of dead hookers and they'll be right back where they started...only without a decent goalie. Yay Rangers!
-------------------- They say 'eh' instead of 'what' or 'duh'. That's the mighty power of Canada.
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May 18 2011, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(Greatone @ May 18 2011, 04:01 PM) I love how we are all running with this like its a possibility Yeah, that's why I keep trying to phrase it as "what would it take to get me to say yes," not "I think this is realistic." No way this trade ever ever ever goes down. -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 03:05 PM
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You realize by trading Lundqvist to the Flyers for the packages you guys are mentioning, the Rangers would essentially become the Flyers, right? No goaltending with some decent pieces up front. And the Flyers show every year that they're not going to do much without a goaltender.
I know people around here don't think Lundqvist is a big money goaltender, and it's a fair argument. But do you remember the years between Richter and Lundqvist? I DO NOT WANT TO GO BACK THERE. And I love Marty Biron, but there's a reason why he's been a back-up for a few years. -------------------- Behind the Press
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May 18 2011, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(Greatone @ May 18 2011, 04:01 PM) I love how we are all running with this like its a possibility But is Giroux a center? Carter is better on the wing so if anything I'd want a top flight center coming back in any deal for Henrik. Dubinsky-Giroux-Gaborik -Stepan-Carter Van Riemsdyk-Anisimov-Callahan Prust-Boyle-Zuccarello Right winger. Richards, Giroux, JVR, Leino and a First for Hank. God I just want this done right now. Prospal-Richards-Gabby Dubi-Stepan-Giroux Leino-Anismov-JVR Prust-Boyle-Zuccarello WANT. EDIT: Don't forget guys in the minors. Dos Nueve was on the Rangers last year. Who's to say he doesn't get better next year and step the fuck up? They also have Cam Talbo and Dov-Gourmet Morris doing well in the minors too. This post has been edited by xcdudesquadloves91!!!: May 18 2011, 03:07 PM -------------------- Wade Redden is my hero, and shall be revered forever.
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May 18 2011, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(xcdudesquadloves91!!! @ May 18 2011, 04:06 PM) Right winger. Richards, Giroux, JVR, Leino and a First for Hank. God I just want this done right now. Prospal-Richards-Gabby Dubi-Stepan-Giroux Leino-Anismov-JVR Prust-Boyle-Zuccarello WANT. EDIT: Don't forget guys in the minors. Dos Nueve was on the Rangers last year. Who's to say he doesn't get better next year and step the fuck up? They also have Cam Talbo and Dov-Gourmet Morris doing well in the minors too. LEINO IS A FUCKING FREE AGENT PEOPLE. And no way do I want Prospal back especially on the 1st line. And where is Cally in your forward group? Dubinsky-Richards-Gaborik -Stepan-Giroux JVR-Anisimov-Callahan Prust-Boyle-Zuccarello EDIT: And please STFU about Chad Johnson and Cam Talbot. My god. This post has been edited by Greatone: May 18 2011, 03:10 PM -------------------- "I think Greatone is one more JKman talent evaluation or 101 trade proposal away from going on a killing spree."
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May 18 2011, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(xcheck24 @ May 18 2011, 04:05 PM) I know people around here don't think Lundqvist is a big money goaltender, and it's a fair argument. But do you remember the years between Richter and Lundqvist? I DO NOT WANT TO GO BACK THERE. But we had Mike Dunham! -------------------- Fenway Park, in Boston, is a lyric little bandbox of a ballpark. Everything is painted green and seems in curiously sharp focus, like the inside of an old-fashioned peeping-type Easter egg. It was built in 1912 and rebuilt in 1934, and offers, as do most Boston artifacts, a compromise between Man's Euclidean determinations and Nature's beguiling irregularities. - John Updike |
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May 18 2011, 03:15 PM
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Unless we got the farm (Giroux, Carter, JVR) it would give the Flyers too much of a chance of winning the cup. Not the fucking Flyers. -------------------- I can come to terms with the senseless violence, I understand that bad things happen to good people and that God doesn't intercede in mortal affairs in the way we might want him to, but what I don't understand is why he dyed his hair red. Doesn't the Joker have green hair? What, was Sally's Beauty Supply out of Electric Lizard Manic Panic or something?
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May 18 2011, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(Greatone @ May 18 2011, 02:53 PM) instead of the picks. This every day and twice on Sunday. -------------------- Special thanks go to Rick91981 for assistance in making the Official Judas Crease Hair Flip avatar a reality!
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May 18 2011, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(xcheck24 @ May 18 2011, 04:05 PM) You realize by trading Lundqvist to the Flyers for the packages you guys are mentioning, the Rangers would essentially become the Flyers, right? No goaltending with some decent pieces up front. And the Flyers show every year that they're not going to do much without a goaltender. But the Flyers "good forwards, bad goaltending" teams have done far better than the Rangers "bad forwards, good goaltending" teams in the past four years. They may not have the greatest regular seasons but they always make noise in the playoffs. The Rangers lately barely make the playoffs and if they get there, they go out quickly. What are we really gambling with here? -------------------- RIP Ass Dan, 1981-2010.
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May 18 2011, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(Greatone @ May 18 2011, 04:09 PM) LEINO IS A FUCKING FREE AGENT PEOPLE. And no way do I want Prospal back especially on the 1st line. And where is Cally in your forward group? Dubinsky-Richards-Gaborik -Stepan-Giroux JVR-Anisimov-Callahan Prust-Boyle-Zuccarello EDIT: And please STFU about Chad Johnson and Cam Talbot. My god. Fine switch Bobvrosky for Leino and sign Prospal for one more year to be on the second line. Dubi-Richards-Gaborik Prospal-Stepan-Giroux JVR-Anisimov-Cally Prust-Boyle Zucarello The trade is Ricahrds, Giroux, JVR, Bobvrosky and maybe a 1st for Henrik. I'd do that. -------------------- Wade Redden is my hero, and shall be revered forever.
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May 18 2011, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(xcdudesquadloves91!!! @ May 18 2011, 04:25 PM) Fine switch Bobvrosky for Leino and sign Prospal for one more year to be on the second line. Dubi-Richards-Gaborik Prospal-Stepan-Giroux JVR-Anisimov-Cally Prust-Boyle Zucarello The trade is Ricahrds, Giroux, JVR, Bobvrosky and maybe a 1st for Henrik. I'd do that. This crosses the border of "casual thoughts for a laugh" to "HFBoards." -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 03:28 PM
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LIKE AMARE Posts: 25,043 Joined: 29-July 08 From: New Providence, NJ I Like: The Knicks! I Don't Like: Lebronakkah |
QUOTE(Kusand @ May 18 2011, 04:27 PM) This crosses the border of "casual thoughts for a laugh" to "HFBoards." Fine then move the 1st form the Flyers to the Rangers side. I don't want to be HFBoards material! I'm not that bad I swear! -------------------- Wade Redden is my hero, and shall be revered forever.
QUOTE(bloodorange @ Jun 22 2010, 05:22 PM) On this point, I agree with xcdude. |
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May 18 2011, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(xcdudesquadloves91!!! @ May 18 2011, 04:28 PM) Fine then move the 1st form the Flyers to the Rangers side. I don't want to be HFBoards material! I'm not that bad I swear! Sure! We're all pretty much HFBoards material in this thread, really. -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 03:40 PM
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Member Posts: 20,729 Joined: 15-March 07 From: Boston, MA I Like: Nyquil I Don't Like: Dayquil |
I still think you guys are asking for too much with Carter and Giroux. That's their two best players. I don't think any team is going to gut themselves like that for anything, much less for a goalie who's post-season record is underwhelming.
-------------------- RIP Ass Dan, 1981-2010.
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May 18 2011, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(Rocha @ May 18 2011, 04:40 PM) I still think you guys are asking for too much with Carter and Giroux. That's their two best players. I don't think any team is going to gut themselves like that for anything, much less for a goalie who's post-season record is underwhelming. I think that it's more like two of the top four, because I think Richards and Pronger have to be in the mix. /hairsplitting I agree, though. But it's unrealistic no matter what. You've got to nab two of those top three forward types; JVR looks good but there's no real track record there yet. I don't want to gamble on a top forward + a good young player. I'm not trying to be realistic, I'm just trying to say what I'd actually let him go for. -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(Kusand @ May 18 2011, 04:44 PM) I'm not trying to be realistic, I'm just trying to say what I'd actually let him go for. Many of these deals would be nice. It's not like a team requires an established all-star goalie to win a Stanley Cup. |
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May 18 2011, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(gkrangers @ May 18 2011, 04:49 PM) Many of these deals would be nice. It's not like a team requires an established all-star goalie to win a Stanley Cup. Right, but I think Lundqvist for Carter+JVR just isn't enough to make it worth it. You're not getting the pieces for a dynamite offense, in my opinion. But I tend to be very risk averse; I don't think enough of JVR right now to think that you couldn't get a Carter-lite cheap in UFA. Also, I think Carter could be gotten on the cheap anyway without giving up Henrik. -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 04:00 PM
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Member Posts: 20,729 Joined: 15-March 07 From: Boston, MA I Like: Nyquil I Don't Like: Dayquil |
QUOTE(Kusand @ May 18 2011, 04:52 PM) Right, but I think Lundqvist for Carter+JVR just isn't enough to make it worth it. Yep, which is why my scenario adds one more. Hartnell and Versteeg are good players. Hartnell's a little older but hardly over the hill, and Versteeg is still young. They'd make awesome 2nd liners. -------------------- RIP Ass Dan, 1981-2010.
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May 18 2011, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(Rocha @ May 18 2011, 05:00 PM) Yep, which is why my scenario adds one more. Hartnell and Versteeg are good players. Hartnell's a little older but hardly over the hill, and Versteeg is still young. They'd make awesome 2nd liners. Myehhhhhhh. Myeh. No likey. I dunno. I just can't get into moving Henrik for anything less than two super solids. -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 04:08 PM
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What kind of a MUG would even consider something like that??????? Henrik is a Ranger and will never be traded!!!!! |
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May 18 2011, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(jburns @ May 18 2011, 04:11 PM) But we had Mike Dunham! and Jaime McLennan! -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(Kusand @ May 18 2011, 03:34 PM) (Braces for impending HDH "I can take this to another thread but did I mention Sather drafted Sanguinetti #21") Well, he did. (But to be fair, I advocated for Berglund. Who isn't Giroux. But is still WAYYYYYYYY better than Sanguinetti.) -------------------- Maybe I get what you're saying, not that your argument is coherent in the least. - Brian Leeds
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May 18 2011, 04:36 PM
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Do you all actually think the Flyers would trade Giroux, JVR, and whoever (Carter? Richards?) for Lundqvist??
I doubt it. |
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