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 Aug 28 2011, 11:42 AM
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 Ding Dong, man.  Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions  |
Gauging interest - this has been a pretty fun league for me the last few years. Who's interested?
Anything we would like to tweak about this season's format? I know we've all discussed trying to find a way around the "get a shutout in your first game, lock down two categories" problem with goalies. Also, I would personally like to see a rule instituted that if you can't make the draft, you either have to set picks, or you can't play. I don't mean to sound like a dick, and I appreciate that autodrafters in years past have tried to work with what they had, but the ESPN hockey autodraft is particularly terrible, and it sucks to have teams with guys on IR as their third- and fourth-round picks. This post has been edited by Mike B.: Aug 28 2011, 11:52 AM -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Aug 28 2011, 11:47 AM
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 LIKE AMARE Posts: 25,061 Joined: 29-July 08 From: New Providence, NJ I Like: The Knicks! I Don't Like: Lebronakkah |
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Aug 28 2011, 12:51 PM
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Member Posts: 711 Joined: 16-July 07 |
I'm in but I think you can make goalie stats only count depending on the amount of games played. We did this ESPN baseball on starting Pitcher starts. It kinda kills me and will change the dynamics of strategy and drafting but I am O.K. with it.
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Aug 28 2011, 12:58 PM
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Member Posts: 711 Joined: 16-July 07 |
Let'em auto-draft but move them down to down in order or forfeit their #1 and # 2 picks or let them draft starting withe # 300 ranked player. If you remove drop them, You screw up the entire league unless you have Subs ready to go.
Also, I would like to do a full NHL League with ESPN and not Yahoo as I do not Like Yahoo's daily set-up. |
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Aug 28 2011, 01:01 PM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
What do you mean vett, add a category of # of games played, if possible? One thing we also discussed was adding a category for # of saves. This would make goalies even more important than they are now, which is tough given that there are only 4-5 good ones in the East, but it would balance out the stats a little more. Meaning, if you get a shutout win in your first start, by benching the goalie for the rest of the week, you run the risk of losing two stats (wins and starts/saves) instead of just one. Maybe this is all an overreaction, but it seemed like this happened fairly often last year.
Also, for any forum members who have signed up since last season, you are of course welcome. This is an Eastern Conference only league, with 10-12 teams. The idea being that we all know the East better, and tightening the list of available players makes you dig deep for value. -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Aug 28 2011, 01:05 PM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
QUOTE(thevett @ Aug 28 2011, 01:58 PM) Let'em auto-draft but move them down to down in order or forfeit their #1 and # 2 picks or let them draft starting withe # 300 ranked player. If you remove drop them, You screw up the entire league unless you have Subs ready to go. Not sure how this solves anything - the problem with autodraft, aside from ESPN's truly bizarre inflation of a player's value, is that they rank players on IR or who may not even play in the NHL pretty high. So people who autodraft wind up with players (like Okposo last year) who miss almost all of the season, but are for some reason ranked in the top 50 or so players, and thus wind up as fairly high picks. QUOTE Also, I would like to do a full NHL League with ESPN and not Yahoo as I do not Like Yahoo's daily set-up. You must be confused with a different league - we've been using ESPN since we started this. -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Aug 28 2011, 01:17 PM
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 Likes to look things up Posts: 2,366,628 Joined: 15-March 07 I Like: Looking at the stats I Don't Like: Guessing what stats were |
I'm in. Will post thoughts later.
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Aug 28 2011, 01:32 PM
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Member Posts: 711 Joined: 16-July 07 |
I know we are ESPN just dropping hints for other readers.
. If your auto drafting getting IR or non players is the price you pay for not being at the draft. Harsh Maybe but that is the way it goes. Gotta set that Auto-Draft up right though or you might miss out on Crosby. |
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Aug 28 2011, 01:37 PM
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 model slash actor Posts: 13,511 Joined: 24-April 08 From: ny |
Obviously I'm in again, this is probably my favorite fantasy league.
As far as solving the goalie problem, instituting a minimum minutes or games requirement would probably solve that. Although it would have to only be two games or maybe three. |
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Aug 28 2011, 04:15 PM
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Likes to look things up Posts: 2,366,628 Joined: 15-March 07 I Like: Looking at the stats I Don't Like: Guessing what stats were |
I still think we're overbooking the league if we do Eastern Conference AND inflate goalie values. Lundqvist/Miller/etc are already valuable as hell in this league, and watering down back-up/rotation guys is just going to make it harder. It's one thing to have studs and also-rans, and another to have diamonds versus bags of poop.
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Aug 28 2011, 04:41 PM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
QUOTE(Kusand @ Aug 28 2011, 05:15 PM) I still think we're overbooking the league if we do Eastern Conference AND inflate goalie values. Lundqvist/Miller/etc are already valuable as hell in this league, and watering down back-up/rotation guys is just going to make it harder. It's one thing to have studs and also-rans, and another to have diamonds versus bags of poop. Unfortunately, there is no way to set minimum starts for goalies, unless we just want to make it an uncodified rule. One possible fix would be to add a minutes category for goalies, and add one or two more offensive stats to balance it out, like PP and/or SH points. That's assuming people think we need to change the goalie stats at all. -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Aug 30 2011, 05:12 PM
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 Member Posts: 2,821 Joined: 20-March 07 From: Laguna Beach & Santa Rosa, CA I Like: The Minitrue I Don't Like: The Komsomol |
in if there is a spot
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Sep 1 2011, 08:27 PM
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Member Posts: 34 Joined: 10-April 07 From: Staten Island |
I'm in if there is a spot.
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Sep 2 2011, 12:00 PM
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 She clears the crease better than any current Ranger Posts: 5,407 Joined: 21-March 07 From: Thousand Oaks, CA I Like: effort I Don't Like: Dolan & Slats |
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Can we add an 'intangibles' stat? -------------------- Living and Breathing Rangers since '66
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Sep 4 2011, 07:43 AM
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Member Posts: 711 Joined: 16-July 07 |
Did you not accomplish that with your 1st pick last year, Dunc
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Sep 4 2011, 08:44 AM
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She clears the crease better than any current Ranger Posts: 5,407 Joined: 21-March 07 From: Thousand Oaks, CA I Like: effort I Don't Like: Dolan & Slats |
I thought that was demonstrating that database guys don't necessarily know jack about GUIs.
-------------------- Living and Breathing Rangers since '66
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Sep 25 2011, 09:49 AM
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model slash actor Posts: 13,511 Joined: 24-April 08 From: ny |
When are we doing the draft?
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Sep 25 2011, 10:48 AM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
QUOTE(toph @ Sep 25 2011, 10:49 AM) When are we doing the draft? Yeah, Kusand and I need to get on this, details soon. -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Sep 28 2011, 12:08 AM
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 Get Ready For 30 Goals? Posts: 2,572 Joined: 14-April 07 From: Fairfield NJ I Like: Supplemental Scoring |
Count me in again if this league is still goin on
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Sep 28 2011, 10:01 AM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
We're such slackers - the season opener is next Thursday, 10/6, right? Kusand and I will talk this over in the next two days and set a time for the draft.
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Sep 28 2011, 10:04 AM
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Member Posts: 711 Joined: 16-July 07 |
Anyone else have a league going with an opening ??
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Sep 28 2011, 10:04 AM
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Likes to look things up Posts: 2,366,628 Joined: 15-March 07 I Like: Looking at the stats I Don't Like: Guessing what stats were |
At this time, we're contemplating no major changes. The only thing I would want to push for is an auction, but I assume not everyone can make the auction and hence we'll never get everyone signed off on it.
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Sep 28 2011, 10:09 AM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
Oh, and we've decided to leave the stats as is. The fix to the goalie "problem" I mentioned above is worse than the problem itself. If we add goalie stats, it makes them count even more in an already very limited pool, and there aren't a lot of good options to add for skaters to balance it out.
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Sep 28 2011, 10:54 PM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
OK, jerks - two orders of business - first, roll call from last year - who's in again?
Kusand - in Mike B. - in Anaconda - in toph - in xcdude - in vett - in Dunc - in Verddogg - in toc93 - in Bavoo - OUT Leedsy - in Rocha - ? Ebase, blade - in if there's room Let's hear from the five people who haven't weighed in yet, please. Second, draft date - the season starts on Thursday 10/6. So it looks like the best date left is Tuesday, 10/4, at 9:30 p.m. EST. Would that work for everyone? Strong preference for that time/date unless there are a lot of conflicts. This post has been edited by Mike B.: Oct 3 2011, 10:24 AM -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Sep 28 2011, 10:58 PM
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LIKE AMARE Posts: 25,061 Joined: 29-July 08 From: New Providence, NJ I Like: The Knicks! I Don't Like: Lebronakkah |
Can we do 10? I can do 930 if we have too.
-------------------- Wade Redden is my hero, and shall be revered forever.
QUOTE(bloodorange @ Jun 22 2010, 05:22 PM) On this point, I agree with xcdude. |
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Sep 29 2011, 08:08 AM
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 Rangerland Fantasy Loser Posts: 1,072 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Section 412 I Like: Darrelle Revis I Don't Like: Espn autopicks |
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Sep 29 2011, 09:32 AM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
QUOTE(xcdudesquadloves91!!! @ Sep 28 2011, 11:58 PM) Can we do 10? I can do 930 if we have too. OK by me, let's see what other people say. QUOTE(toc93 @ Sep 29 2011, 09:08 AM) in Cool. Continuity is good. -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Sep 29 2011, 09:54 AM
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Likes to look things up Posts: 2,366,628 Joined: 15-March 07 I Like: Looking at the stats I Don't Like: Guessing what stats were |
QUOTE(Mike B. @ Sep 29 2011, 10:32 AM) Cool. Continuity is good. You son of a bitch, that's my line. -------------------- |
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Sep 29 2011, 10:03 AM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
QUOTE(Kusand @ Sep 29 2011, 10:54 AM) You son of a bitch, that's my line. Prove it! -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Sep 29 2011, 10:14 AM
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She clears the crease better than any current Ranger Posts: 5,407 Joined: 21-March 07 From: Thousand Oaks, CA I Like: effort I Don't Like: Dolan & Slats |
9:30 is the exact same time as the other (non-E.C. draft), 10 would be better for me.
-------------------- Living and Breathing Rangers since '66
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Sep 29 2011, 10:19 AM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
QUOTE(Dunc @ Sep 29 2011, 11:14 AM) 9:30 is the exact same time as the other (non-E.C. draft), 10 would be better for me. Shit, we didn't even think of that. Would you be able to do both if we staggered the times like that? -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Sep 29 2011, 10:24 AM
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She clears the crease better than any current Ranger Posts: 5,407 Joined: 21-March 07 From: Thousand Oaks, CA I Like: effort I Don't Like: Dolan & Slats |
QUOTE(Mike B. @ Sep 29 2011, 08:19 AM) QUOTE(Dunc @ Sep 29 2011, 11:14 AM) 9:30 is the exact same time as the other (non-E.C. draft), 10 would be better for me. Shit, we didn't even think of that. Would you be able to do both if we staggered the times like that? Kind of surprised nobody mentioned it, but it shouldn't really be a problem if I am organized and ready. The only thing I'm worried about is a situation where all my contingency picks are not available. -------------------- Living and Breathing Rangers since '66
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Sep 29 2011, 10:26 AM
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Is too busy toiling in the fields to paint a beard and straw hat Posts: 1,595 Joined: 16-March 07 From: Toiling in the fields... I Like: Toiling in the fields I Don't Like: Having stones cast at him |
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Sep 29 2011, 10:37 AM
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Likes to look things up Posts: 2,366,628 Joined: 15-March 07 I Like: Looking at the stats I Don't Like: Guessing what stats were |
Actually, I'd like to make the switch to a FAAB (Free Agent Auction Budget) system for waivers, if no one objects.
I'm not a huge fan of the "#1/2 picks sit on their waiver status all year waiting for the big trade" system we have. I think making it an auction system there could be neat. For those unfamiliar, the general idea is you get a budget (100 fake dollars) each season to make pickups with. When you put in a waiver claim, you also add a bid value from 0-100. Highest bid gets the player, and pays out of their budget. Now when you make claims, there's a bit of strategy. Do you want to sit on your budget to wait for trades? Do you want to blow all 100 waiting for James Neal or whoever the big incoming guy is? Should you make little $1 and $2 bids to grab the latest hot player? Etc. -------------------- |
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Sep 29 2011, 11:04 AM
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model slash actor Posts: 13,511 Joined: 24-April 08 From: ny |
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Sep 29 2011, 01:47 PM
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Get Ready For 30 Goals? Posts: 2,572 Joined: 14-April 07 From: Fairfield NJ I Like: Supplemental Scoring |
10 would be better for me too....auction for free agents sounds pretty cool, worth a try perhaps
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Sep 29 2011, 02:19 PM
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Member Posts: 711 Joined: 16-July 07 |
Let's do two leagues since there is no NBA
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Sep 30 2011, 10:33 PM
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 Member Posts: 1,392 Joined: 27-March 07 From: Brooklyn, NY I Like: Lundqvist I Don't Like: Jessiman |
I know I have been away for awhile, but the Champ doesn't get an invite for a chance t repeat?
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Sep 30 2011, 10:38 PM
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Likes to look things up Posts: 2,366,628 Joined: 15-March 07 I Like: Looking at the stats I Don't Like: Guessing what stats were |
QUOTE(VerdDogg @ Sep 30 2011, 11:33 PM) I know I have been away for awhile, but the Champ doesn't get an invite for a chance t repeat? You're right in Mike B's list. You're in as long as you want it. -------------------- |
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Sep 30 2011, 11:03 PM
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Member Posts: 1,392 Joined: 27-March 07 From: Brooklyn, NY I Like: Lundqvist I Don't Like: Jessiman |
QUOTE(Kusand @ Sep 30 2011, 11:38 PM) QUOTE(VerdDogg @ Sep 30 2011, 11:33 PM) I know I have been away for awhile, but the Champ doesn't get an invite for a chance t repeat? You're right in Mike B's list. You're in as long as you want it. Oh I'm in. -------------------- |
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Oct 1 2011, 02:20 AM
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 You can't even begin to imagine how unrustled my jimmies are Posts: 4,317 Joined: 25-June 10 From: Summit, NJ I Like: The Onion I Don't Like: Everyone else |
If there is space I'll be happy to be in.
Know I'm really late to this, I just noticed this thread. -------------------- I can come to terms with the senseless violence, I understand that bad things happen to good people and that God doesn't intercede in mortal affairs in the way we might want him to, but what I don't understand is why he dyed his hair red. Doesn't the Joker have green hair? What, was Sally's Beauty Supply out of Electric Lizard Manic Panic or something?
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Oct 1 2011, 08:59 AM
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Member Posts: 711 Joined: 16-July 07 |
I vote for 10 as the other league goes at 8 I believe.
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Oct 3 2011, 10:31 AM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
Leeds is in, so Rocha is the only person from last season who hasn't weighed in yet.
That makes 10 teams, pending Rocha's response, so Ebase, blade, Charlie (in that order) stay tuned, looks like we will have at least two spots available. If Rocha is in, we can go to 14 teams, which would be kind of nuts with an EC only league, but it's also pretty fun to be praying for value out of late season-AHL-callup-third-liners. If Rocha is out, then we'll probably only take two more people to make it a 12-team league. Also, reminder, draft tomorrow, 10/4, 10 p.m. EST. I'll send out a reminder from the site once we have the league set. -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Oct 3 2011, 06:51 PM
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Member Posts: 711 Joined: 16-July 07 |
Espn, Shows the Draft not scheduled and no just East only Draft helps for at least me ??
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Oct 3 2011, 07:16 PM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
QUOTE(thevett @ Oct 3 2011, 07:51 PM) Espn, Shows the Draft not scheduled and no just East only Draft helps for at least me ?? We didn't schedule it yet, as the league membership isn't set yet. Rocha just confirmed, which means that we have the 11 players from last season, plus the three others that expressed interest in this thread. Ebase, blade, Charlie, just sent you guys PMs. 14 teams in an EC only league should be pretty interesting, to say the least. Once again, we strongly urge you to make the draft and failing that, to please set your picks. You will see that the ESPN rankings are terrible. They often have players on long-term IR or not even signed yet (e.g., Streit, Okposo, Zherdev from last year) ranked inexplicably high, which means that if you don't set your picks you will wind up with a hurt player as your third-rounder. That sucks for everyone, as it means you will wind up with a very shitty team, and will be more likely to drop out. -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Oct 3 2011, 07:19 PM
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Ding Dong, man. Posts: 18,512 Joined: 15-March 07 I Don't Like: unions |
This is the list of players:
Kusand Mike B. Anaconda toph xcdude vett Dunc Verddogg toc93 Leedsy Rocha Ebase blade Charlie Those that played last year, you should be able to log on with the same account info from last season. Once we know everyone's team name, I'll update this post. -------------------- Y'all laying up, doing shit. Nahmean, playing whatever little volleyballs they got on the beach and doing everything, the activities.
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Oct 3 2011, 08:57 PM
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LIKE AMARE Posts: 25,061 Joined: 29-July 08 From: New Providence, NJ I Like: The Knicks! I Don't Like: Lebronakkah |
Down with the Terror Mosque!!!
Mike Santorelli was second in goals on my team with 20 last year. Should be another interesting year of failed draft picks! -------------------- Wade Redden is my hero, and shall be revered forever.
QUOTE(bloodorange @ Jun 22 2010, 05:22 PM) On this point, I agree with xcdude. |
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Oct 3 2011, 10:01 PM
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Likes to look things up Posts: 2,366,628 Joined: 15-March 07 I Like: Looking at the stats I Don't Like: Guessing what stats were |
14 teams. Getting back to our original roots. Hope everyone is up to date on their bangers and grinders.
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Oct 4 2011, 09:28 AM
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Member Posts: 711 Joined: 16-July 07 |
I got the Draft Info, Still fail to see an ECL only sight
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Oct 4 2011, 10:03 AM
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Likes to look things up Posts: 2,366,628 Joined: 15-March 07 I Like: Looking at the stats I Don't Like: Guessing what stats were |
QUOTE(thevett @ Oct 4 2011, 10:28 AM) I got the Draft Info, Still fail to see an ECL only sight http://games.espn.go.com/fhl/leagueoffice?...p;seasonId=2012 -------------------- |
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