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May 18 2011, 02:32 PM
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Per ESPN.com
QUOTE OK, so we've talked about nearly every option the Philadelphia Flyers could explore regarding their goalie future. Most involve trading for a young goalie or signing one of the big free agents -- most notably Ilya Bryzgalov. However, is it possible they will trade for a top veteran goaltender? The Courier Post's Chuck Gormley writes, "There are whispers that they may make a pitch for Buffalo's Ryan Miller, the Rangers' Henrik Lundqvist, Calgary's Miikka Kiprusoff, Minnesota's Niklas Backstrom or, yes, New Jersey's Martin Brodeur." This is the first we're hearing of this and it sounds like pure speculation -- especially since the Flyers have strong options in Bryzgalov and Tomas Vokoun in free agency. In addition, trading for a high-priced veteran goalie makes little sense because the deal with not only cost the Flyers valuable assets, but it could also force them to cut payroll to get under the cap with their new goalie. If some team such as Philly would give up the farm to acquire Hank would you ever consider it? As crazy as it may sound, my answer would be yes. While it's always awesome to have a franchise goalie,and I certainly don't yearn for the days of Mike Dunham, there are teams that have succeeded without elite goalies. With that said, I'd only EVER consider it if we got something along the lines of Mike Richards, JVR and one of their three goalies in return. -------------------- |
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May 18 2011, 03:05 PM
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![]() Rangerlands Eeyore! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 32,390 Joined: 15-March 07 From: Running in the rain until I'm breathless I Like: The start of baseball season I Don't Like: The start of Mets season |
You realize by trading Lundqvist to the Flyers for the packages you guys are mentioning, the Rangers would essentially become the Flyers, right? No goaltending with some decent pieces up front. And the Flyers show every year that they're not going to do much without a goaltender.
I know people around here don't think Lundqvist is a big money goaltender, and it's a fair argument. But do you remember the years between Richter and Lundqvist? I DO NOT WANT TO GO BACK THERE. And I love Marty Biron, but there's a reason why he's been a back-up for a few years. -------------------- Behind the Press
"Hey, look. Somebody put the lead in the first paragraph." -- From Overheard in the Newsroom About another Reporter entering the newsroom after an intense interview: Reporter #1: “Look at him, he’s got that after-sex glow.” Reporter #2: “That’s the glow I get when a good story comes together.” -- Overheard in the Newsroom |
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May 18 2011, 03:11 PM
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I know people around here don't think Lundqvist is a big money goaltender, and it's a fair argument. But do you remember the years between Richter and Lundqvist? I DO NOT WANT TO GO BACK THERE. But we had Mike Dunham! -------------------- Fenway Park, in Boston, is a lyric little bandbox of a ballpark. Everything is painted green and seems in curiously sharp focus, like the inside of an old-fashioned peeping-type Easter egg. It was built in 1912 and rebuilt in 1934, and offers, as do most Boston artifacts, a compromise between Man's Euclidean determinations and Nature's beguiling irregularities. - John Updike |
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May 18 2011, 06:20 PM
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But we had Mike Dunham! Yeah...and it wasn't a good thing. And Pete, I get what you're saying, but I'd rather they stay on this path than trade one of the big cornerstones of getting them onto the right road. That being said, they need to do something before Lundqvist is beyond the prime years to helping them win something. You know, like some scoring. -------------------- Behind the Press
"Hey, look. Somebody put the lead in the first paragraph." -- From Overheard in the Newsroom About another Reporter entering the newsroom after an intense interview: Reporter #1: “Look at him, he’s got that after-sex glow.” Reporter #2: “That’s the glow I get when a good story comes together.” -- Overheard in the Newsroom |
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May 18 2011, 09:01 PM
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And Pete, I get what you're saying, but I'd rather they stay on this path But what path are they on? In the past three seasons they - Made the playoffs on one of the final days of the season, lost in the 1st round. - Missed the playoffs on one of the final days of the season. - Made the playoffs on one of the final days of the season, lost in the 1st round. Unlike the Capitals who have awesome regular seasons but fizzle out in the playoffs, or teams like Pittsburgh, Philly, Boston and Tampa Bay who have good regular seasons and then make deep playoff runs, this Ranger team has given no indications it's moving upward or there's a real good team there just waiting to mature. Let's say the exact same roster came back next season -- would you really be surprised if they didn't make the playoffs? I'm not sure what some people are wanting to protect here. I'm not saying they need to scrap it all and start over, but this team needs to take a few risks to break out of their streak of barely keeping their heads above water. -------------------- RIP Ass Dan, 1981-2010.
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jkman61494 Would you ever consider trading Hank? May 18 2011, 02:32 PM
Kusand Woof. Um. The conversation absolutely would have t... May 18 2011, 02:34 PM
SorryaboutthatWhoa I'm fucking not fucking trading fucking Henrik... May 18 2011, 02:37 PM

jburns I'm fucking not fucking trading fucking Henrik... May 18 2011, 02:40 PM


Kusand Even for Giroux and JVR? That is mighty, mighty d... May 18 2011, 02:40 PM


jburns The Flyers are deep enough that they can lose thos... May 18 2011, 02:42 PM


Rocha The Flyers are deep enough that they can lose thos... May 18 2011, 02:47 PM

Kusand I'm fucking not fucking trading fucking Henrik... May 18 2011, 02:40 PM
HDH (Braces for impending HDH "I can take this to... May 18 2011, 04:22 PM
xcdudesquadloves91!!! Giroux, JVR, Bobvrosky, First round pick and mayb... May 18 2011, 02:36 PM
Paul Smachetti Giroux, JVR, Bobvrosky, First round pick and mayb... May 18 2011, 04:45 PM
Nilan 666 Please let them get Brodeur. This way I can hate ... May 18 2011, 02:43 PM
Rocha HA! I posted a long Lundqvist-to-the-Flyers tr... May 18 2011, 02:44 PM
jburns So let's say, Carter, Richards, Versteeg for H... May 18 2011, 02:46 PM

Rocha I think JVR would have to be in there for me to pu... May 18 2011, 02:53 PM
Kusand HA! I posted a long Lundqvist-to-the-Flyers tr... May 18 2011, 02:46 PM

Rocha No way. Carter's good, but I want their leadin... May 18 2011, 02:53 PM

Greatone Carter's definitely the better goal scorer, th... May 18 2011, 02:55 PM
Greatone HA! I posted a long Lundqvist-to-the-Flyers tr... May 18 2011, 02:50 PM
Andy from the LES So let's say, Carter, Richards, Versteeg for H... May 18 2011, 07:47 PM
jkman61494 If we signed a guy like Vokoun though? Meh I agre... May 18 2011, 02:48 PM
Hockey101 No thanks. Not to Philly. May 18 2011, 02:49 PM
Kusand Giroux, Carter, JVR, a 1st and a 2nd. I think you ... May 18 2011, 02:50 PM
Greatone Giroux, Carter, JVR, a 1st and a 2nd. I think you ... May 18 2011, 02:53 PM
xcdudesquadloves91!!! Giroux, Carter, JVR, a 1st and a 2nd. I think you ... May 18 2011, 02:54 PM
Bleedin-Blue Even with the sweet pieces coming back, I don... May 18 2011, 02:55 PM
jburns OMG, I'm salivating. See ya, Hank! Don... May 18 2011, 02:57 PM
Nilan 666 Imagine the fun when Laviolette still plays goalie... May 18 2011, 02:59 PM
Greatone I love how we are all running with this like its a... May 18 2011, 03:01 PM
Kusand I love how we are all running with this like its a... May 18 2011, 03:04 PM
xcdudesquadloves91!!! I love how we are all running with this like its a... May 18 2011, 03:06 PM
Greatone Right winger.
Richards, Giroux, JVR, Leino and a ... May 18 2011, 03:09 PM
xcdudesquadloves91!!! LEINO IS A FUCKING FREE AGENT PEOPLE.
And no way... May 18 2011, 03:25 PM
Kusand Fine switch Bobvrosky for Leino and sign Prospal f... May 18 2011, 03:27 PM
xcdudesquadloves91!!! This crosses the border of "casual thoughts f... May 18 2011, 03:28 PM
Kusand Fine then move the 1st form the Flyers to the Rang... May 18 2011, 03:32 PM
The Fast Choker With regard to Richards, there was a blurb in the ... May 18 2011, 03:02 PM
Bleedin-Blue You guys do realize though that the instant Lundqv... May 18 2011, 03:04 PM
Andy from the LES You guys do realize though that the instant Lundqv... May 18 2011, 07:51 PM

Cipher(KTO) But we had Mike Dunham!
and Jaime McLennan... May 18 2011, 04:12 PM

xcheck24 teams like Pittsburgh, Philly, Boston and Tampa Ba... May 18 2011, 09:15 PM
Rocha You realize by trading Lundqvist to the Flyers for... May 18 2011, 03:24 PM
SpanishJack I know people around here don't think Lundqvis... May 18 2011, 04:41 PM
jkman61494 You realize by trading Lundqvist to the Flyers for... May 18 2011, 05:34 PM
Charlie No.
Unless we got the farm (Giroux, Carter, JVR) ... May 18 2011, 03:15 PM
Tex instead of the picks.
This every day and twice on ... May 18 2011, 03:22 PM
Rocha I still think you guys are asking for too much wit... May 18 2011, 03:40 PM
Kusand I still think you guys are asking for too much wit... May 18 2011, 03:44 PM
gkrangers I'm not trying to be realistic, I'm just t... May 18 2011, 03:49 PM
Kusand Many of these deals would be nice. It's not l... May 18 2011, 03:52 PM
Rocha Right, but I think Lundqvist for Carter+JVR just i... May 18 2011, 04:00 PM
Kusand Yep, which is why my scenario adds one more. Hartn... May 18 2011, 04:01 PM
jasonjep What kind of a MUG would even consider something l... May 18 2011, 04:08 PM
toph Do you all actually think the Flyers would trade G... May 18 2011, 04:36 PM
HDH Do you all actually think the Flyers would trade G... May 18 2011, 04:47 PM
Dunc Do you all actually think the Flyers would trade G... May 18 2011, 05:24 PM
Eric I wouldn't accept any trade involving Lundqvis... May 18 2011, 04:52 PM
Tex I wouldn't accept any trade involving Lundqvis... May 18 2011, 05:01 PM
Paul Smachetti Trashcanikov?
:beavis: May 18 2011, 05:31 PM
Eric Trashcanikov?
Trashcanahan is way better, right Ta... May 18 2011, 05:36 PM
Tex Trashcanrahan is way better, right Taki?
He hasn... May 18 2011, 06:35 PM
Eric Bobrovsky is good and I bet he can be made better ... May 18 2011, 05:08 PM
CsideEr The reason the levels of success reached by the ba... May 18 2011, 05:43 PM
VerdDogg Nevermind the Rangers, Has there been a goalie mor... May 18 2011, 06:12 PM
toph Nevermind the Rangers, Has there been a goalie mor... May 18 2011, 06:21 PM
VerdDogg Yeah, quite a few of them, actually.
Actually no,... May 18 2011, 06:57 PM
Nilan 666 Why are you using Lundqvist and consistent in the ... May 18 2011, 06:15 PM
Eric I've decided that no, I wouldn't. May 18 2011, 06:48 PM
jkman61494 The one reason I posted this is I have a funny fee... May 18 2011, 07:30 PM
Nilan 666 Let's make this more controversial, Henke and ... May 18 2011, 07:58 PM
Greatone Let's make this more controversial, Henke and ... May 18 2011, 08:04 PM
CsideEr Philly doesnt have the cap space.
cap space? now ... May 18 2011, 08:17 PM
Andy from the LES RE: Would you ever consider trading Hank? May 18 2011, 08:03 PM
LisaLisa
That's friggin' awesome. :clapping: :cl... May 18 2011, 08:10 PM
Nilan 666 Personally the only goalie that makes sense for Ph... May 18 2011, 08:08 PM
leetchie69 I dunno...would Sather really trade Henrik to Phil... May 18 2011, 08:27 PM
jkman61494 I dunno...would Sather really trade Henrik to Phil... May 18 2011, 11:43 PM
xcheck24 Who said anything about the exact same roster? I s... May 18 2011, 09:12 PM
Rocha Who said anything about the exact same roster? I s... May 18 2011, 09:52 PM
Knight of Dight If we were to trade Hank for a bunch of really goo... May 19 2011, 01:05 AM
Rocha If we were to trade Hank for a bunch of really goo... May 19 2011, 03:02 AM
SorryaboutthatWhoa I think goaltending is being massively underrated ... May 19 2011, 07:15 AM
The Fast Choker I think goaltending is being massively underrated ... May 19 2011, 08:42 AM

SorryaboutthatWhoa That's not necessarily a bad argument though. ... May 19 2011, 09:04 AM

The Fast Choker So we're trading Henke, in a year when the Gar... May 19 2011, 10:15 AM
SpanishJack I think goaltending is being massively underrated ... May 19 2011, 09:30 AM
Hockey101 I think we should trade Lundqvist for Kane and Sha... May 19 2011, 11:30 AM
jburns I think we should trade Lundqvist for Kane and Sha... May 19 2011, 11:57 AM
Hockey101 Killjoy.
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Ok fine. Lundqvist for Stamkos. May 19 2011, 12:14 PM
HDH ......
Ok fine. Lundqvist for Stamkos.
Was i... May 19 2011, 12:18 PM
Beamer Has anyone mentioned the theory, I think it was Ke... May 19 2011, 12:22 PM
HDH Nevermind:
Imagine they took MDZ, Grachev, ... May 19 2011, 12:22 PM
Charlie Nevermind:
Imagine they took MDZ, Grachev, and Gir... May 19 2011, 12:32 PM
xcheck24 Nevermind:
Imagine they took MDZ, Grachev, and Gir... May 19 2011, 12:33 PM
SpanishJack Nevermind:
Imagine they took MDZ, Grachev, and Gir... May 19 2011, 12:40 PM
Beamer Actually, here's an interesting analysis:
http... May 19 2011, 12:27 PM![]() ![]() |
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