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> Game of Thrones, Scheming and Little People!
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post Jun 13 2011, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(Beamer @ Jun 13 2011, 12:42 PM) *
That'd be awesome but a whole lot of work. 8 weeks of posts in this thread is a good 20 pages.


Just started - not as tough as you'd think!


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I appreciate that, as I missed most of the early discussion since I didn't start watching until around episode 6.



Another board I post on has two threads - one for those that read the books and one for those that didn't. Not a horrible idea, though I don't think we have enough viewers here on either side to warrant it. This is one of those rare series where that comes into play, though. I've done a good job avoiding spoilers and was caught by surprise when Ned gave up his honor for his children last night.
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QUOTE(Beamer @ Jun 13 2011, 12:45 PM) *
I appreciate that, as I missed most of the early discussion since I didn't start watching until around episode 6.
Another board I post on has two threads - one for those that read the books and one for those that didn't. Not a horrible idea, though I don't think we have enough viewers here on either side to warrant it. This is one of those rare series where that comes into play, though. I've done a good job avoiding spoilers and was caught by surprise when Ned gave up his honor for his children last night.


Pretty sure I would of done the same in his shoes...except...I would have hesitated to trust Cersei or Joffrey. Which I don't think he did based on his convos with chubby in the dungeon.

I think when he saw Sansa and she nodded her head at him led him to believe for a split second that maybe they will hold their word.





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I think when he saw Sansa and she nodded her head at him led him to believe for a split second that maybe they will hold their word.


In fairness they were. Faux Linda Hamilton was completely willing to avoid war, and thought making him a servant would send a better message.
The entire stage erupted in chaos when little know-nothing announced his decision. Faux Linda Hamilton was mortified and desperately trying to stop it.

Which is why the capturing of Kingslayer is that much more interesting. Maybe now, too, we'll find out the secret of his blow dryer. I'm thinking he must keep an elephant in his tent like he's a Flinstone.
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QUOTE(Beamer @ Jun 13 2011, 02:04 PM) *
In fairness they were. Faux Linda Hamilton was completely willing to avoid war, and thought making him a servant would send a better message.
The entire stage erupted in chaos when little know-nothing announced his decision. Faux Linda Hamilton was mortified and desperately trying to stop it.

Which is why the capturing of Kingslayer is that much more interesting. Maybe now, too, we'll find out the secret of his blow dryer. I'm thinking he must keep an elephant in his tent like he's a Flinstone.


Yea I think part of the deal as well (according to chubby) was that Ned would make Robb back off from coming to King's landing.

Joffrey wanted to demonstrate his "new" power more than actually think through the consequences of his decision. You would think FLH discussed this with him.
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QUOTE(Beamer @ Jun 13 2011, 02:04 PM) *
In fairness they were. Faux Linda Hamilton was completely willing to avoid war, and thought making him a servant would send a better message.
The entire stage erupted in chaos when little know-nothing announced his decision. Faux Linda Hamilton was mortified and desperately trying to stop it.

Which is why the capturing of Kingslayer is that much more interesting. Maybe now, too, we'll find out the secret of his blow dryer. I'm thinking he must keep an elephant in his tent like he's a Flinstone.

True. Cersei and the Toadies thought they had everything under control. But the smug-faced punk bastard suddenly called an audible. And Kingslayer is a helluva great nickname. If you have no honor, that is. biggrin.gif

As far as Jaime's hair goes, I think both he and Sansa found a secret stash of ultra-condtioner and won't give up it's location for anything.

I still wonder if Ned actually saw Arya in the distance?


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QUOTE(LisaLisa @ Jun 13 2011, 06:13 PM) *
I still wonder if Ned actually saw Arya in the distance?


He did.


But yeah, as I mentioned on page 2 the little Backstreet Boy thought he was doing osmething that would demonstrate his power, and under certain conditions doing something like that would certainly end all questions, but given an army outside your walls it was probably a poor choice. If he wasn't such a brat he'd realize that.

Oh, well, the woman from 300 kind of deserves it for raising him so poorly. And for giving him really very little chance from his gene pool.
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post Jun 14 2011, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE(Beamer @ Jun 13 2011, 01:20 PM) *

I would like to see this seen redone. I'd like to see the face slap replaced with a chair slap, WWF-style.


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So um yeah I just started watching it with the episode where Ned died and am already hooked, so is there a way to watch the earlier episodes? Supposedly you can do it on HBO.com, does anyone have experience with that? huh.gif


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If you have HBO at home, you can log into hbogo.com with the account info from whatever company provides your service. For me that is DirecTV.


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QUOTE(Eric @ Jun 14 2011, 07:02 PM) *
If you have HBO at home, you can log into hbogo.com with the account info from whatever company provides your service. For me that is DirecTV.

Ahh, I'll try that in a bit. Thanks smile.gif

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I suggest watching with special features enabled. It's very helpful with reminding you who the hell people are and where they heck they are.

Considering you meet about 40 different people by episode 2.

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Dude. I just watched Sunday's episode.
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Dude. I just watched Sunday's episode.

Yeah. That did happen. sad01_anim.gif


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Fucking E-entertainment went and blabbed all about how shocking that plot twist was, ruining it for people who hadn't seen it yet (like my dad).

Nevertheless, they raised a good point: killing off the most recognizable face and the "protagonist" may cause people to quit watching. Obviously it had to happen to remain faithful to the source material, but it is still a good point.

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QUOTE(LisaLisa @ Jun 13 2011, 06:13 PM) *
True. Cersei and the Toadies thought they had everything under control. But the smug-faced punk bastard suddenly called an audible. And Kingslayer is a helluva great nickname. If you have no honor, that is. biggrin.gif

As far as Jaime's hair goes, I think both he and Sansa found a secret stash of ultra-condtioner and won't give up it's location for anything.

I still wonder if Ned actually saw Arya in the distance?


Valyrian conditioner, made with dragonsblood. Same thing with Syrio Forel's Soul Glow. Spoiler alert but this becomes a major conflict in book four when Jon has a bad hair day up at the Wall as Sam frantically searches through Maester Aemon's archives for the formula of the conditioner. /nerdalert
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I think the little to none battle scenes in GOT will help keep it around for many seasons. Rome was a great show but was cut short due the cost of the battles and cgi. Producers here are doing what they can to keep this series around to tell the whole story. Especially when the "3 new additions" to the cast come....that will be a bit costly.


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I think the little to none battle scenes in GOT will help keep it around for many seasons. Rome was a great show but was cut short due the cost of the battles and cgi. Producers here are doing what they can to keep this series around to tell the whole story. Especially when the "3 new additions" to the cast come....that will be a bit costly.

Three new additions? Who are they?

Also, how much sword fighting is there? I can live without elaborate army-against-army battle scenes, but sword fighting duels give me a hard-on.


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QUOTE(Knight of Dight @ Jun 15 2011, 12:22 AM) *
Three new additions? Who are they?

Also, how much sword fighting is there? I can live without elaborate army-against-army battle scenes, but sword fighting duels give me a hard-on.



The "3 new additions" are WTF! worthy

The duels are very good....the most they had at 1 time is the most 5 on 5 when the Jamie attacked Ned in front of the brothel

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QUOTE(VerdDogg @ Jun 14 2011, 11:27 PM) *
The "3 new additions" are WTF! worthy

Still don't have any idea what you're talking about. huh.gif


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QUOTE(VerdDogg @ Jun 15 2011, 12:27 AM) *
The "3 new additions" are WTF! worthy

Be careful of spoilers, dude. Not all of us have read the books. Although, by the time season 2 rolls around, I expect to be completely up-to-date.


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Still don't have any idea what you're talking about. huh.gif

You realize this is based on a book series and that this is season 1, book 1. If you want major spoilers, there are GoT forums full of info. Right now, since all of us aren't caught up, let's keep the discussion to the TV show.


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I have a request for this thread. It's gonna seem like a very obvious thing but please bear with me.

Can everyone please refrain from posting any content from the books that comes after the most current episode of the show?

You want to complain about something they left out? Go for it.

Do you want to compare an episode with what happened in the book? Knock yourself out.

Just please don't discuss stuff that happens later. Not all of us have read the books.


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Ahhhh, I get it. I thought he was referring to actors they added in the next season.

Yeah, since they're (apparently from what I've read about the show) following closely to the books please don't reveal stuff we haven't seen yet.

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Yea I'm pretty sure I didn't reveal anything at all so don't get your panties in a bunch.


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QUOTE(Eric @ Jun 15 2011, 12:38 AM) *
I have a request for this thread. It's gonna seem like a very obvious thing but please bear with me.

Can everyone please refrain from posting any content from the books that comes after the most current episode of the show?

You want to complain about something they left out? Go for it.

Do you want to compare an episode with what happened in the book? Knock yourself out.

Just please don't discuss stuff that happens later. Not all of us have read the books.


Let's skip even that, since many watching right now will read later. Why spoil either? This is a thread solely about the show.


If you want to talk about the books do it all in spoiler tags.
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Yea I'm pretty sure I didn't reveal anything at all so don't get your panties in a bunch.

I'm not upset or anything, and it wasn't so much addressed to you as a general request. What I actually want is not to be spoiled before this weekend's finale. After that, I'll spoil myself with the books.


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Sean Bean was stabbed in the arm in London the other day. Got into a fight with some wanker who was disrespecting his Playboy Playmate lady friend.


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Sean Bean was stabbed in the arm in London the other day. Got into a fight with some wanker who was disrespecting his Playboy Playmate lady friend.


yeah i read that the other day, didn't put it together in my head that he was the guy from GoT. They also said he just went inside and patched himself up with the first aid kit behind the bar, then went on drinking.
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Peter O'Toole and the late Richard Burton would be proud. O'Toole is still alive right?


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Ditto.

Dude. Dragons. Friggin' dragons. Honestly, I was hoping those dragon eggs weren't dead stone. I got my wish. For better or worse, I got my wish.

Now what? nailbiting.gif


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That was awesome


Was that the complete first book?


I'm disappointed in the season's end. Not the last scene, not at all, as it feels like a complete arc for that story and absolutely perfect place/way to stop, and the cliffhanger for the Night's Watch is good enough, but the main storyline just kind of stopped. I guess, in fairness, it wasn't much touched upon in this episode, and last episode would have been a good place to end it, but it felt incomplete. I'm just annoyed I have to wait.
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Was that the complete first book?
I'm disappointed in the season's end. Not the last scene, not at all, as it feels like a complete arc for that story and absolutely perfect place/way to stop, and the cliffhanger for the Night's Watch is good enough, but the main storyline just kind of stopped. I guess, in fairness, it wasn't much touched upon in this episode, and last episode would have been a good place to end it, but it felt incomplete. I'm just annoyed I have to wait.

This is why I'm going to start reading the books. The ending was great, but there has to be more to the rest of the storylines. King of the North? The men of the Nightwatch on the march? Arya and Robert's bastard son heading north? And poor Sansa. sad01_anim.gif I swear I want Joffrey gutted from the groin up to his throat and then across the gut just for good measure.


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Ditto.

Dude. Dragons. Friggin' dragons. Honestly, I was hoping those dragon eggs weren't dead stone. I got my wish. For better or worse, I got my wish.

Now what? nailbiting.gif



Well the name of the second book is "A Clash of Kings"

So I think you know what the main storyline will be!

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Dragon lady is fucking hot.

And this entire episode felt like denouement after the climax that was the previous episode.


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post Jun 19 2011, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(Knight of Dight @ Jun 19 2011, 11:06 PM) *
Dragon lady is fucking hot.

And this entire episode felt like denouement after the climax that was the previous episode.


It was. Most shows would end with the main storyline, but this show had to use the reactions to the main storyline to launch the conclusion of the other storylines.

I still feel, though, that you probably could have put the final scene in the last episode and called the season there. It'd have been more satisfying.
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post Jun 19 2011, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(leetchie69 @ Jun 19 2011, 10:58 PM) *
Well the name of the second book is "A Clash of Kings"

So I think you know what the main storyline will be!

I was wondering more about the storyline involving Daenerys and the dragons.


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post Jun 20 2011, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(Beamer @ Jun 19 2011, 11:14 PM) *
It was. Most shows would end with the main storyline, but this show had to use the reactions to the main storyline to launch the conclusion of the other storylines.

I still feel, though, that you probably could have put the final scene in the last episode and called the season there. It'd have been more satisfying.

I agree, but I think tonight's episode was more of a build up for the start of next season.


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post Jun 20 2011, 10:45 AM
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Things I learned:
1) That old dude likes whores, and is planning something by making everyone think he's frail and senile. Unfortunately I hardly remember him doing anything in the past to prove otherwise (hardly remember him doing much, period, kind of just remember him being there), but clearly that was the point of the scene.
2) Ned had another son! Who knew?!
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post Jun 20 2011, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(LisaLisa @ Jun 19 2011, 11:40 PM) *
I was wondering more about the storyline involving Daenerys and the dragons.


Will have to tune into season 2 to find out!

Wonder how long we will have to wait now.
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QUOTE(leetchie69 @ Jun 20 2011, 11:58 AM) *
Will have to tune into season 2 to find out!

Wonder how long we will have to wait now.


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post Jun 20 2011, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(Beamer @ Jun 20 2011, 11:06 AM) *
Spring 2012. So forever.

That sucks. After a year, most people have forgotten the story.


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post Jun 20 2011, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(Knight of Dight @ Jun 20 2011, 01:27 PM) *
That sucks. After a year, most people have forgotten the story.


Well, it never really hurt The Sopranos, and they were probably closest to this with having random people floating in and out with such frequency that you forgot who did what and why their 5 minute scene pretending to ramble to a prostitute had any bearing on the plot.


But yeah.






So what summer TV is there now? True Blood comes back next week or something, but I haven't decided if I'll bother. I probably will, but I'm really hoping they finally have someone take a moment to tell Snookie that she's bipolar and only dead things can tolerate spending more than 30 seconds in her presence. Unfortunately ever character thinks she's a ray of sunshine so that seems unlikely.
What else? Anything?
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post Jun 20 2011, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(Knight of Dight @ Jun 20 2011, 01:27 PM) *
That sucks. After a year, most people have forgotten the story.

Uhh, there are the books to read.


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post Jun 20 2011, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(Beamer @ Jun 20 2011, 01:36 PM) *
Well, it never really hurt The Sopranos, and they were probably closest to this with having random people floating in and out with such frequency that you forgot who did what and why their 5 minute scene pretending to ramble to a prostitute had any bearing on the plot.
But yeah.
So what summer TV is there now? True Blood comes back next week or something, but I haven't decided if I'll bother. I probably will, but I'm really hoping they finally have someone take a moment to tell Snookie that she's bipolar and only dead things can tolerate spending more than 30 seconds in her presence. Unfortunately ever character thinks she's a ray of sunshine so that seems unlikely.
What else? Anything?

I have to look up when Mad Men will return. There was a whole mess earlier this year. It was resolved but I don't recall seeing a shooting schedule for next season.


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