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[Knight of Dight]

Sansa was still in the castle in the season finale preview. But, as you noted, you never know where they'll decide to take a story. Since there's a lot I don't know, I'm left thinking that if Ser Loras is at King's Landing, Margaery Tyrell can't be far behind. And where does that leave Sansa? I think she should've gone off with the Hound. Who knows? She may yet. I'm also eager to see what happens now that Tywin's at the castle. He told Tyrion not to bring Shae, he knows what she looks like, and he's bound to see her. Oh, the scandal!

And if you didn't know, the season finale will run 70 mins long. A small consolation, but I'll take it.

I didn't see the preview, but I thought we saw him leave without her, but there's speculation it was left open-ended. I didn't think so, but that doesn't mean I didn't see something that wasn't there, and while having her go with Sandor somewhat makes a different character seem less devious, it doesn't hurt much.

But again, if Sansa leaves with Sandor is drastically alters future plotlines. I don't think they do that.

[Beamer]

Sansa was still in the castle in the season finale preview. But, as you noted, you never know where they'll decide to take a story. Since there's a lot I don't know, I'm left thinking that if Ser Loras is at King's Landing, Margaery Tyrell can't be far behind. And where does that leave Sansa? I think she should've gone off with the Hound. Who knows? She may yet. I'm also eager to see what happens now that Tywin's at the castle. He told Tyrion not to bring Shae, he knows what she looks like, and he's bound to see her. Oh, the scandal!

And if you didn't know, the season finale will run 70 mins long. A small consolation, but I'll take it.

I didn't see the preview, but I thought we saw him leave without her, but there's speculation it was left open-ended. I didn't think so, but that doesn't mean I didn't see something that wasn't there, and while having her go with Sandor somewhat makes a different character seem less devious, it doesn't hurt much.

But again, if Sansa leaves with Sandor is drastically alters future plotlines. I don't think they do that.

Not really.

In the books Arya goes with Sandor, ups her body count, kills Polliver and the Tickler, can't quite get to the Eyrie and lose each other near the quiet isle. Sansa gets snuck out by Ser Dorito and ends up in the Eyrie. Would things change very much if Sansa goes with Sandor and actually makes it to the Eyrie and if Arya goes right to the free cities? No. I think Polliver or the Tickler are already dead, Arya's kill count isn't exactly moving these days, Ser Cheeto is wallpaper, and all we really lose is some character building with how Sandor and a Stark girl split up, but that can be done just fine - have it happen like the book then have Littlefinger come across Sansa as she's fleeing.

No real change in future plotlines at all, just a minor change in how we get to the big parts.

[Knight of Dight]

Oh boy, we've got The Others now!

The plot thickens!

[Eric]

Going back to last week, I've never read the books and I felt it was pretty clear that the fire all around him is what set Sandor off.

[ChokeMOut]

Going back to last week, I've never read the books and I felt it was pretty clear that the fire all around him is what set Sandor off.

I've read all the books, and you are 100% correct.

[leetchie69]

The series finale set a series high for viewership. 4.2 million.

How many more seasons can this thing possibly go? 2? 3?

[Knight of Dight]

The series finale set a series high for viewership. 4.2 million.

How many more seasons can this thing possibly go? 2? 3?

Until they run out of source material or the ratings start slumping.

There's three more books currently, and it seems like they're planning to split them into two seasons a piece due to their length.

[TeamStewie]

I don't know about that. Book 3 is going to be in seasons 3 and 4 but I think the last two books will probably start in season 4 because of the cutoff on next season. From what I've heard about next season and where they are going to end it there would probably be only a few more episodes needed to finish off the 3rd book. Plus the last two books have a lot of redundant blathering so I'm thinking 2 1/2 seasons would be more than enough.

[Knight of Dight]

I really wish they had split the second book into two seasons-- they left out quite a bit of interesting stuff and it was one of the more exciting books in the series.

[Eric]

WAAAAAAAAAAH.

These aren't exact copies of the books. Get over it already.

This post has been edited by Eric: Jun 5 2012, 11:01 PM

[leetchie69]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/t...ticle-1.1095149

Here is the scene in question at around 1:10. I didn't even notice it.

[pitchburn]

So I've had the book in my 'to read' pile for a while now, as I like to read something before seeing the filmed version.

However the endless parade of people queuing up to give the TV series a blowjob has peaked my curiosity. So what do we reccommend? Should I dive into the TV show or hold off and read the book first to get a broader understanding and enjoyment of it all?

[TeamStewie]

I would read the book since it will probably get a little confusing keeping everyone straight. At least that's what most people who didn't read the book first seem to say.

[Knight of Dight]

So I've had the book in my 'to read' pile for a while now, as I like to read something before seeing the filmed version.

However the endless parade of people queuing up to give the TV series a blowjob has peaked my curiosity. So what do we reccommend? Should I dive into the TV show or hold off and read the book first to get a broader understanding and enjoyment of it all?

I actually recommend against reading the book, at this point. After you've read the books it's too hard not to compare the two, and it ends up affecting your enjoyment of the show.

This post has been edited by Knight of Dight: Jun 24 2012, 09:47 PM

[ChokeMOut]

I'd recommend not reading the books as well. I only started reading the books last year, so I didn't have to wait too long for "A Dance with Dragons", but now I'm dreading waiting another five or ten years before I learn how everything turns out.

In hindsight, I should've just enjoyed the show, and read the books when the series is done.

Just for fun here, is Jon Snow really Ned's bastard?

[LisaLisa]

I watched the first two seasons and loved them. I started reading Book 1 now. I'd recommend watching the first two seasons, then read the books. I didn't have a problem keeping the characters straight, but it's true that there are a lot of them in Book 1, and the number of characters increases with each book. I can definitely see how people get confused. If fact, I say watch Season 1 then read Book 1, then watch Season 2, etc.

Just for fun here, is Jon Snow really Ned's bastard?

After reading Chapter 1 of Book 1, I came away thinking that Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's (sp?) child. Ned told Jon he was his blood in the TV series. He didn't say he was his son. And from what I read around the 'net from fans regarding this subject, a lot of fans seem to think so, too.

This post has been edited by LisaLisa: Jun 25 2012, 01:31 AM

[SorryaboutthatWh...]

Incidentally, I think Game of Thrones is the only show whose opening credits don't make me want to stab my brain through my eyes.

It's funny, I just started watching the show, up to episode 9, and the theme song drives me nuts. It's 2 minutes long. Two. Minutes. Long.

The music does perfectly set the tone, but I don't know, the visuals seem to be out of a different show if it wasn't for it showing off the kingdoms.

Anyway, not bad so far, but a 2 minute long opening sequence when watching back to back and HBO go having really shitty scrubbing capabilities on the iPad is way too long.

[Eric]

What you need is to listen to the kids of the show singing along to the themesong:

[Knight of Dight]

I think the reason Game of Thrones' opening theme doesn't bother me is because it's just background music. It's completely ignorable.

If it had lyrics, like all the other ones do, it'd be different. You want to talk about an annoying fucking theme? The Wire was King of the annoying opening theme.

[the old mole]

I think the reason Game of Thrones' opening theme doesn't bother me is because it's just background music. It's completely ignorable.

If it had lyrics, like all the other ones do, it'd be different. You want to talk about an annoying fucking theme? The Wire was King of the annoying opening theme.

WAAAAAY DAAAAOOOOWWWWN INNA HOOOOOOOLE

[LisaLisa]

It's official. You guys are completely insane. GoT's theme song is fantastic. This is the entire song. I posted it just to spite you.

Listen. Listen to it. It's glorious. Philistines!

[Knight of Dight]

I think the reason Game of Thrones' opening theme doesn't bother me is because it's just background music. It's completely ignorable.

If it had lyrics, like all the other ones do, it'd be different. You want to talk about an annoying fucking theme? The Wire was King of the annoying opening theme.

WAAAAAY DAAAAOOOOWWWWN INNA HOOOOOOOLE

The first and last season it wasn't so bad, but it seems like it was the second season that it was like nails on a chalkboard, all the way through. Whichever season had the guy who actually wrote it singing it.

[Alitaki]

It's official. You guys are completely insane. GoT's theme song is fantastic. This is the entire song. I posted it just to spite you.

Listen. Listen to it. It's glorious. Philistines!

The opening theme is about the high point of Game of Thrones for me. It's well done but I just can't get into the whole "politics of court" anymore. All the backstabbing and machiavellian bullshit just annoys the shit out of me. Ned Stark and Tyrion Lannister are the only two characters I liked through two seasons and one they killed off already. I think it was Ned's death that really put me off the show and part of the reason why I stopped reading the books. I still watch it out of the corner of my eye when my wife watches but I just can't get into it. Plus Jon Snow is a fool.


Anyway regarding the theme song, if you like that kind of stuff you should check out Two Steps From Hell. They do a lot of epic orchestral compositions for movies, tv shows, and video games. Good stuff.

This post has been edited by Alitaki: Jun 26 2012, 08:28 AM

[LisaLisa]

Whatever, Grumpy Gramps.

Season 3 starts filming July 9.

[Beamer]

Plus Jon Snow is a fool.

Well duh. He knows nothing!

[Alitaki]

Whatever, Grumpy Gramps.

Season 3 starts filming July 9.

Sorry, didn't mean to besmirch the name of thy holy show.

[LisaLisa]

Whatever, Grumpy Gramps.

Season 3 starts filming July 9.

Sorry, didn't mean to besmirch the name of thy holy show.

You'll know 'sorry' when I have your clowny head on a spike.

[Knight of Dight]

Whatever, Grumpy Gramps.

Season 3 starts filming July 9.

Sorry, didn't mean to besmirch the name of thy holy show.

You'll know 'sorry' when I have your clowny head on a spike.

Okay Joffrey.

[SorryaboutthatWh...]

Holy crap, I'm glad I watched the entire series before really starting to read this thread. I now know to stay the hell away from it when next season starts.

Book book book book book book book. Go read the fucking book then.

[Knight of Dight]

Holy crap, I'm glad I watched the entire series before really starting to read this thread. I now know to stay the hell away from it when next season starts.

Book book book book book book book. Go read the fucking book then.

You don't understand.

The show set a precedent the first season by following the book extremely closely.

Then, in the second season, they start diverging from it by making up characters, changing how things happened, and adding in fluff that didn't exist in the books.

It wouldn't have been a big deal, if they didn't make fans of the books think that the show was going to follow the books.

[SorryaboutthatWh...]

Holy crap, I'm glad I watched the entire series before really starting to read this thread. I now know to stay the hell away from it when next season starts.

Book book book book book book book. Go read the fucking book then.

You don't understand.

The show set a precedent the first season by following the book extremely closely.

Then, in the second season, they start diverging from it by making up characters, changing how things happened, and adding in fluff that didn't exist in the books.

It wouldn't have been a big deal, if they didn't make fans of the books think that the show was going to follow the books.

Oh I understand, jk used this argument about 6 different times. Doesn't make it any less weak.

[LisaLisa]

Holy crap, I'm glad I watched the entire series before really starting to read this thread. I now know to stay the hell away from it when next season starts.

Book book book book book book book. Go read the fucking book then.

You don't understand.

The show set a precedent the first season by following the book extremely closely.

Then, in the second season, they start diverging from it by making up characters, changing how things happened, and adding in fluff that didn't exist in the books.

It wouldn't have been a big deal, if they didn't make fans of the books think that the show was going to follow the books.

How did they make you think they'd follow the books? Isn't that an assumption on your (and other stay-to-the-book readers) part? I never read any interview or report from the show writers or GRRM saying that? If you assumed they would (because following to the letter a 1000-page book makes total sense in a 1-hour TV format), then that's on you, not them. A lot of people need to stop blaming the producers for their own faulty, and not very reasonable, assumptions.

[jkman61494]

Holy crap, I'm glad I watched the entire series before really starting to read this thread. I now know to stay the hell away from it when next season starts.

Book book book book book book book. Go read the fucking book then.

You don't understand.

The show set a precedent the first season by following the book extremely closely.

Then, in the second season, they start diverging from it by making up characters, changing how things happened, and adding in fluff that didn't exist in the books.

It wouldn't have been a big deal, if they didn't make fans of the books think that the show was going to follow the books.

How did they make you think they'd follow the books? Isn't that an assumption on your (and other stay-to-the-book readers) part? I never read any interview or report from the show writers or GRRM saying that? If you assumed they would (because following to the letter a 1000-page book makes total sense in a 1-hour TV format), then that's on you, not them. A lot of people need to stop blaming the producers for their own faulty, and not very reasonable, assumptions.

They made people "think" it by actually doing it during the first season. There was a very strict adherence to the storyline. The only deviating thing was the age and it had to be done. Joffrey was I think 12 years old? Robb 14?

You're right, they didn't do any interviews about sticking to the book, and there were not any about why they put such an emphasis on it the first season, only to go in a whole different direction in Season 2.

It's why a good number of people were upset when people like Margaery Tyrell were totally re-branded, or why a field nurse was thrusted (literally?) into a major role when she did not even exist in the books. The whole relationship with Theon and his sister was changed in the series and not for the better.

I really don't know why it would surprise you that people, who read the book would be upset that they go in this direction.

Peter Jackson at least was pretty open throughout the process that there would be changed made to LOTR, so when certain characters were omitted, it wasn't a shock.

However, if Jackson had strictly adhered to the Fellowship book, only to then make big changes to the plot and characters in the next two movies, without letting anyone know? There would have been a storm of complaints 20x louder than what you see with Game Of Thrones.

[SorryaboutthatWh...]

Again though, is it really necessary to bitch about it after almost every episode? I'm a fan of the show, whatched two seasons in two days ( home sick) and I read this thread and decided never to read this thread again during future seasons until they are over.

Is that really how we want these threads to be? I didn't read the books, I probably won't read the books, why does every other comment have to be about the books?

[jkman61494]

I really gave up towards the end until I saw these comments. I'm really not a "fanboy" this is really the first time I've been upset about a tv and book translation.

But it's a two way street with this thread. When you have posts by people like LisaLisa dripping in sarcasm and slight insults, do you really think people are not going to respond?

How did they make you think they'd follow the books? Isn't that an assumption on your (and other stay-to-the-book readers) part?

I never read any interview or report from the show writers or GRRM saying that? If you assumed they would (because following to the letter a 1000-page book makes total sense in a 1-hour TV format), then that's on you, not them.

A lot of people need to stop blaming the producers for their own faulty, and not very reasonable, assumptions.

I'm not perfect. KOD is not perfect etc etc. I know it takes two to tango with threads like this. But Lisa is simply trolling and trying to just stir the fire here. And yes I took the bait.

[Knight of Dight]

Again though, is it really necessary to bitch about it after almost every episode? I'm a fan of the show, whatched two seasons in two days ( home sick) and I read this thread and decided never to read this thread again during future seasons until they are over.

Is that really how we want these threads to be? I didn't read the books, I probably won't read the books, why does every other comment have to be about the books?

Meh.

It's really the field nurse that bothers me the most. I can forgive all the other changes, as they impacted the overall plot very little and in some instances actually enhanced it (Arya and Tywin, for example). But what bothers me the most about the field nurse is that she was given a significant amount of screen time for what amounted to little more than romantic fluff. They omitted important characters and had to trim out lots of content because of the size of the source material, which is expected, but after all that they felt they had time to insert a meaningless character whose only purpose was to eat up screen time by fucking Robb? It feels mildly insulting as a fan of the books.

[Eric]

Look at it from the perspective of someone who hasn't read the book.

Person who hasn't read the books: That was a great episode! When all the ships blew up with the wild fire! That was awesome!

Person who has read the books: ARRRGGGG! THEY DID IT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE BOOK! WHY COULDN'T THEY MAKE IT MORE LIKE THE BOOKS! GRRM SHOULD BE VERY UPSET!

Person who hasn't read the books: He's helping them with the show so he must be ok with this. Stop bitching about everything. It's not a word for word recreation of the book.

One week later

Person who has read the books: WHO THE SHIT IS THIS WOMAN ROBB IS FALLING IN LOVE WITH? THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!

Person who hasn't read the books: sigh

[jkman61494]

But Eric I don't see many people here complaining about "word for word" problems here.

I know you're not personally attacking people here so I don't mean this to come across as demeaning but maybe you and others are taking the notion of "adhering to the plot" to people believing the series SHOULD be word for word.

It's been the issues discussed here in the past minutes that were bothersome, not for the fact Arya's discussion with Bull changed a bit. or that Jon Snow's attachment to Ygrette happened in 30 minutes whereas it took 4 chapters in the book etc etc.

And like I said earlier. People will have differences. That's fine. But then you have certain people deliberately go out of their way to bash people, which I really think is unnecessary and just creates 2 pages of arguments for no reason.

While I may not agree, your comment here was done respectfully and I appreciate that.

[the old mole]

In a series of books, you can multiply the cast to your heart's content, and you can have major characters sit out for an entire book. Jamie and Robb were hardly in the second book, IIRC. The whole war plot from the Stark perspective was from Catelyn's POV so that GRRM didn't have to write battle scenes.

In a TV series, on the other hand, you have actors. And you can't just have the guys who play Robb, Jamie, and Tywin hanging around for a season because they didn't have a large role to play in the corresponding book. They're not just changing things because they hate you or because they don't think the books are good enough or they don't know how to make a faithful adaptation.

I haven't been too into the Robb/Nurse (I don't even know her name) story arc, but not because it wasn't in the book. I thought maybe it was and I just wasn't remembering it. I understand why they did it, though, and how it fits into Robb's overall arc.

[Eric]

But Eric I don't see many people here complaining about "word for word" problems here.

I know you're not personally attacking people here so I don't mean this to come across as demeaning but maybe you and others are taking the notion of "adhering to the plot" to people believing the series SHOULD be word for word.

It's been the issues discussed here in the past minutes that were bothersome, not for the fact Arya's discussion with Bull changed a bit. or that Jon Snow's attachment to Ygrette happened in 30 minutes whereas it took 4 chapters in the book etc etc.

And like I said earlier. People will have differences. That's fine. But then you have certain people deliberately go out of their way to bash people, which I really think is unnecessary and just creates 2 pages of arguments for no reason.

While I may not agree, your comment here was done respectfully and I appreciate that.

You missed my point. My point is that coming into the thread week after week to complain that it's different is really flipping annoying. We would all like it if the people doing that would stop. Discuss the show. They do things that the book took 12 chapters to explain in 10 minutes because the season is only 10 episodes long. It's really not that hard to understand. The point is that constantly complaining about it is grating.

[Alitaki]

I don't see how this show set a precedent when the first season of Dexter was practically a scene by scene remake of the first book and followed up by changing the story in the coming seasons.

You can't make movies/shows that follow a book exactly. Things that work in a book could take multiple episodes to convey adding time and cost to the production. In onther cases events in books are expanded because they can be more dramatically done on the screen. Case in point, the Battle at Helms Deep in the LOTR books was about 20 pages. In the movies, it was the centerpiece of the second film. That's why these things are called adaptions. As long as they stay true to the spirit of the story, I'm more or less okay with it.

[SorryaboutthatWh...]

I was curious so I went back to the Walking Dead thread to see if it was book book book.

Admittedly, the novels get brought up a lot, by myself to boot, but not really in a way to knock down the series. Much of the discussion in that thread is about lapses in logic and plot holes, as opposed to gripes about not holding true to a storyline or characters.

I mean for comparison's sake, everyone's favorite character seems to be Dale, who is not in the comics (although he apparently is being written in now, or already is due to his popularity)

It is possible this changes next season though. There's no way people won't have opinions on the inevitable changes to the Governor storyline.

Anyway, I don't think it's a crime to discuss the book, but the fact that it's a constant discussion point of contention is what gets grating.

[TeamStewie]

I was curious so I went back to the Walking Dead thread to see if it was book book book.

Admittedly, the novels get brought up a lot, by myself to boot, but not really in a way to knock down the series. Much of the discussion in that thread is about lapses in logic and plot holes, as opposed to gripes about not holding true to a storyline or characters.

I mean for comparison's sake, everyone's favorite character seems to be Dale, who is not in the comics (although he apparently is being written in now, or already is due to his popularity)

I think you mean Darryl. Dale is in the comics.

[Beamer]

SATS and I are agreeing again!

[SorryaboutthatWh...]

I was curious so I went back to the Walking Dead thread to see if it was book book book.

Admittedly, the novels get brought up a lot, by myself to boot, but not really in a way to knock down the series. Much of the discussion in that thread is about lapses in logic and plot holes, as opposed to gripes about not holding true to a storyline or characters.

I mean for comparison's sake, everyone's favorite character seems to be Dale, who is not in the comics (although he apparently is being written in now, or already is due to his popularity)

I think you mean Darryl. Dale is in the comics.

yes

[Beamer]

This is the only GoT topic I post on anywhere that concentrates so much on book comparisons. Or, rather, griping about book comparisons. Most people discuss it, but they compare and contrast. They'll gripe about a character note being altered to make a character fundamentally more or less likeable, and they'll talk about new scenes added that really help flesh out and enhance characters. And they'll just talk about how much fun the show is, more than even doing comparisons.


I feel like this thread is mostly "He's eating a cheese sandwich, but in the book it was a tomato sandwich! I always imagined he was lactose intolerant, and now everything is ruined!"

[Knight of Dight]

This is the only GoT topic I post on anywhere that concentrates so much on book comparisons. Or, rather, griping about book comparisons. Most people discuss it, but they compare and contrast. They'll gripe about a character note being altered to make a character fundamentally more or less likeable, and they'll talk about new scenes added that really help flesh out and enhance characters. And they'll just talk about how much fun the show is, more than even doing comparisons.


I feel like this thread is mostly "He's eating a cheese sandwich, but in the book it was a tomato sandwich! I always imagined he was lactose intolerant, and now everything is ruined!"

Well, my complaint is based mostly off the fact that I don't like sex scenes in any form of non-pornographic media because I view them as trite filler, and they added a character that didn't exist in the books for the sole purpose of including more sex scenes. Rob married someone in the books, and she was given very little background. There was no need to spend so much screen time on that character. It could have been better used on including more details in any of the other plot-lines, which were all interesting.

[SorryaboutthatWh...]

Well, my complaint is based mostly off the fact that I don't like sex scenes in any form of non-pornographic media because I view them as trite filler, and they added a character that didn't exist in the books for the sole purpose of including more sex scenes.

Really Knight, she's there for the one sex scene she had, and not to establish conflict between the other family who he was already promised to?

They didn't develop her a bit to give us a reason why Rob, someone who seems to be an honorable man and a man of his word, would go back on his promise, as opposed to just randomly marrying someone who just popped in and he's like "sure her"

All of it was for one sex scene last season? Really?

The way you talk you would think there was an episode that consisted of 30 minutes of sex while you looked at your watch wondering where the Kaleesa was.

[Beamer]

This is the only GoT topic I post on anywhere that concentrates so much on book comparisons. Or, rather, griping about book comparisons. Most people discuss it, but they compare and contrast. They'll gripe about a character note being altered to make a character fundamentally more or less likeable, and they'll talk about new scenes added that really help flesh out and enhance characters. And they'll just talk about how much fun the show is, more than even doing comparisons.


I feel like this thread is mostly "He's eating a cheese sandwich, but in the book it was a tomato sandwich! I always imagined he was lactose intolerant, and now everything is ruined!"

Well, my complaint is based mostly off the fact that I don't like sex scenes in any form of non-pornographic media because I view them as trite filler, and they added a character that didn't exist in the books for the sole purpose of including more sex scenes. Rob married someone in the books, and she was given very little background. There was no need to spend so much screen time on that character. It could have been better used on including more details in any of the other plot-lines, which were all interesting.

I was going to respond to this giving you hell by comparing this to you "Jason Stackhouse is too masculine to be hit on by a gay guy" comment in the True Blood topic, but I kind of feel like I come across as a jerk to you on enough other things and don't want to, haha.

[Knight of Dight]

This is the only GoT topic I post on anywhere that concentrates so much on book comparisons. Or, rather, griping about book comparisons. Most people discuss it, but they compare and contrast. They'll gripe about a character note being altered to make a character fundamentally more or less likeable, and they'll talk about new scenes added that really help flesh out and enhance characters. And they'll just talk about how much fun the show is, more than even doing comparisons.


I feel like this thread is mostly "He's eating a cheese sandwich, but in the book it was a tomato sandwich! I always imagined he was lactose intolerant, and now everything is ruined!"

Well, my complaint is based mostly off the fact that I don't like sex scenes in any form of non-pornographic media because I view them as trite filler, and they added a character that didn't exist in the books for the sole purpose of including more sex scenes. Rob married someone in the books, and she was given very little background. There was no need to spend so much screen time on that character. It could have been better used on including more details in any of the other plot-lines, which were all interesting.

I was going to respond to this giving you hell by comparing this to you "Jason Stackhouse is too masculine to be hit on by a gay guy" comment in the True Blood topic, but I kind of feel like I come across as a jerk to you on enough other things and don't want to, haha.

You misinterpreted my comment about Jason. I have no problem with him getting hit on. If he starts returning it, which I suspect is where his plot arc is going this season, THEN I will have a beef with that.

This post has been edited by Knight of Dight: Jun 28 2012, 01:42 PM