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[Kusand]

Anyone else been following the Trayvon Martin murder? What a fucking travesty that is. I can't believe Florida's laws make it likely this guy is going to walk.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archiv...killing/254776/

This post has been edited by Kusand: Mar 20 2012, 07:59 AM

[rightbug]

I think the history of calls to the police shows a pretty clear history of racial bias and, by all accounts, there was nothing at all threatening about Trayvon aside from the color of his skin but, yeah, short of him admitting he is a racist, it is impossible to know what is in a man's mind etc. It walks like a duck though.

[leedsy99]

I think the history of calls to the police shows a pretty clear history of racial bias

How do you know that he wasn't completely correct in reporting that those black kids were causing crimes in his neighborhood?

[LisaLisa]

I think the history of calls to the police shows a pretty clear history of racial bias

How do you know that he wasn't completely correct in reporting that those black kids were causing crimes in his neighborhood?

Seriously? These questions you're bringing up have been covered and answered over the last week. How is it that you're completely out-of-the-loop on the #1 national news story for the last 7 days that's now drawing protests across the country and that's being covered every where?

[HDH]

I think the history of calls to the police shows a pretty clear history of racial bias

How do you know that he wasn't completely correct in reporting that those black kids were causing crimes in his neighborhood?

Seriously? These questions you're bringing up have been covered and answered over the last week. How is it that you're completely out-of-the-loop on the #1 national news story for the last 7 days that's now drawing protests across the country and that's being covered every where?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012...-an-arrest.html


Wait, forgive me for possibly being out of the loop, but wasn't there a string of burglaries that were reported as being committed by black youths?

According to several homeowners who live at the Retreat, many of the well-groomed townhomes were robbed and vandalized last year by what some say was "a gang of young black men."€� Many now believe those robberies set the stage for a young man's death—and international outrage over it.

"I was told by a neighbor of ours last year that the men causing our problems were black,"€said 35-year-old Jackie Mathews, who lives with her brother in the complex. "They told me to avoid young black men at all times and to call the police if I saw a group of them in the complex."’

Sanford police received nearly 15 reports of burglary and theft from Retreat at Twin Lakes homeowners last year.

(BTW, I totally think Zimmerman was wrong and should be charged (unless it is established that it was clearly self defense). But even if it WERE self defense, it was his own actions that gave rise to the situation. I'm speaking more conceptually about the pre-existing situation and the area and the "do not run" mantra.)

This post has been edited by HDH: Mar 23 2012, 04:09 PM

[LisaLisa]

I think the history of calls to the police shows a pretty clear history of racial bias

How do you know that he wasn't completely correct in reporting that those black kids were causing crimes in his neighborhood?

Seriously? These questions you're bringing up have been covered and answered over the last week. How is it that you're completely out-of-the-loop on the #1 national news story for the last 7 days that's now drawing protests across the country and that's being covered every where?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012...-an-arrest.html


Wait, forgive me for possibly being out of the loop, but wasn't there a string of burglaries that were reported as being committed by black youths?

According to several homeowners who live at the Retreat, many of the well-groomed townhomes were robbed and vandalized last year by what some say was "a gang of young black men."€� Many now believe those robberies set the stage for a young man's death—and international outrage over it.

"I was told by a neighbor of ours last year that the men causing our problems were black,"€said 35-year-old Jackie Mathews, who lives with her brother in the complex. "They told me to avoid young black men at all times and to call the police if I saw a group of them in the complex."’

Sanford police received nearly 15 reports of burglary and theft from Retreat at Twin Lakes homeowners last year.

(BTW, I totally think Zimmerman was wrong and should be charged (unless it is established that it was clearly self defense). But even if it WERE self defense, it was his own actions that gave rise to the situation. I'm speaking more conceptually about the pre-existing situation and the area and the "do not run" mantra.)

Speaking specifically to this case--this was a 17 yr old teen who was being approached by a much bigger stranger. He was not a P.O. And despite his claim, this man was not a neighborhood watchman. I know my brother's sons were taught how to act when approached by a P.O.; just as they were taught how to act when approached by a stranger. And this man was a stranger to him. We can only guess what was going through Trayvon Martin's mind when this man approached him, possibly accosted him and possibly chased him. This kid was screaming for help. He was unarmed. It's not a stretch to assume he was very scared. There's no justification or defense for why this child was shot to death. Unless you're Zimmerman--a wannabe "Watchman" with delusions of heroism who found what he thought was the sacrificial lamb that would elevate him to the status he craved.