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> Beginning of Marijuana decriminalization?
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post Jun 4 2012, 07:55 PM
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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/mayor-...ticle-1.1089717

meh..I guess it is a first step..
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post Jun 4 2012, 08:21 PM
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Bloomy just wants it legal so he can ban it.


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post Jun 4 2012, 09:17 PM
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Well, technically, it DOES make you fatter...


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post Jun 5 2012, 05:45 AM
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It's been decriminalized since the 70's. This will just close the loophole that police have been using to get around it. You can have small amounts of pot on you for personal use as long as you don't display it or use it in public. If found on your persons the worst that you'd get is a fine. However, cops were having people empty their pockets during stop and frisks and since you voluntarily took the pot out of your pocket and put it on display, you're now subject to charges as well. All this does is take that option away and ends a lot of needless arrests.


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post Jun 5 2012, 08:47 AM
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And it makes it easier for my friend Bob - who has lost ties with his source - to acquire it.


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post Jun 5 2012, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(Bleedin-Blue @ Jun 4 2012, 09:17 PM) *
Well, technically, it DOES make you fatter...

yeah, because, SouperSalads isn't open 24 hours... biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Alitaki @ Jun 5 2012, 06:45 AM) *
It's been decriminalized since the 70's. This will just close the loophole that police have been using to get around it. You can have small amounts of pot on you for personal use as long as you don't display it or use it in public. If found on your persons the worst that you'd get is a fine. However, cops were having people empty their pockets during stop and frisks and since you voluntarily took the pot out of your pocket and put it on display, you're now subject to charges as well. All this does is take that option away and ends a lot of needless arrests.


It's a very minor tweak to the existing law, and as the NYC commissioner states, by policy they don't arrest people for this charge anyway. The larger problem that the governor seems to miss is that the cost of successfully prosecuting people for the violation offense that they charge exceeds the maximum fine. With time, travel and testing expenses, it costs about $500 to convict someone of this offense at trial, with the end result being a $100 fine. That's plainly stupid. An easy fix is to override the existing caselaw with legislation that allows field testing (or officer experience) to be sufficient proof that the drug in question is actually marihuana. Or just legalize possession under 25 grams.


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post Dec 5 2012, 01:42 PM
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This seems as good a place as any, I guess. So that Mike B. doesn't have to split it out of the I Hate thread.

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The video is stunning. [Collinsville, Illinois, police officer Michael] Reichert actually admits that he sometimes wipes marijuana on cars parked in the lots of Collinsville hotels. He says he does this as part of a training exercise for the dog. He also asks employees for tips about suspicious guests from out of state. And he concedes that it's possible someone on whose car he has "wiped" marijuana might later get pulled over and subjected to a drug dog sniff.

Perhaps even by Officer Reichert. Sounds like a good reason to avoid visiting Collinsville.


Part of the reason "officer experience" doesn't thrill me for determining possession violations. Police departments being able to make revenue from asset forfeiture makes the whole drug war seem extra suspect. And sometimes, it turns out they're just daisies.


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post Dec 5 2012, 02:15 PM
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Wooooooooooooooooooooooooow.

Not typing that sarcastically. I mouthed that one word the entire time I read that.
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post Dec 5 2012, 04:31 PM
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Didn't even have to click the link to know that was a Radley Balko article, bless his heart.


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post Dec 6 2012, 01:04 PM
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Legalizing Marijuana: Washington Law Goes Into Effect, Allowing Recreational Use Of Drug

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Officers will be advising people not to smoke in public, police spokesman Jonah Spangenthal-Lee wrote on the SPD Blotter. "The police department believes that, under state law, you may responsibly get baked, order some pizzas and enjoy a `Lord of the Rings' marathon in the privacy of your own home, if you want to."

He offered a catchy new directive referring to the film "The Big Lebowski," popular with many marijuana fans: "The Dude abides, and says `take it inside!'"




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