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[toph]

Outlining playlist:

Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
Gotye - Somebody I Used to Know
White Stripes - Icky Thump

That's pretty much it. It's working.

[rightbug]

So good...

[Puckforbrains]

Just picked up Jack Whites 7" for Sixteen Saltines. B-side is a cover of U2's Love is Blindness, which I previously thought ,and still do, think its a great song. However Jacks version is pretty intense as well.

[hoser]

Here's one from the upcoming new Beach House album. Me likey.

[Puckforbrains]

For all you folks in NYC -

http://thirdmanrecords.com/news/view/rolli...ticket-giveaway

Our Rolling Record Store (an educational vinyl adventure center on wheels) will be rolling into the Big Apple on Thursday the 26th to bestow upon the citizenry free tickets to Jack White's American Express Unstaged concert at Webster Hall on Friday April 27th.

pfft..its only 5 pairs of tickets - would be a tough albeit sweet score

This post has been edited by Puckforbrains: Apr 25 2012, 07:50 PM

[Hockey101]

Meanwhile, it has unfortunately become easy to forget how awesome Courtney Love was:



Live Through This and Celebrity Skin are great albums (not familiar with their first). Was organizing my CD collection over the weekend, and completely forgot that I owned a copy of the latter.

She was awesome. Ever seen that concert where she showed her boobs? Funny as a shit that looks like George Washington. ...................... dunno how i came up with that but it would be cool if it actually existed.

[rightbug]

I don't think it's been mentioned here, so all those with similar tastes in music as mine (XC, Mike, Bug, Kusand etc.) absolutely should pick up the new Spiritualized album. It's fantastic and absolutely deserved the Best New Music it got.

Boy, the long form video for Hey Jane is very good:

http://vimeo.com/39295354

NSFW.

[toph]

Do you guys actually take the Pitchfork reviews seriously? I'll check the score an album gets, but reading the actual review is almost painful.

[rightbug]

Do you guys actually take the Pitchfork reviews seriously? I'll check the score an album gets, but reading the actual review is almost painful.

I actually never check Pitchfork reviews. I tend to get recommendations for one of four places:

Here
Another forum I post on where a lot of people have similar taste
Metacritic
Spotify

[Mike B.]

I don't think it's been mentioned here, so all those with similar tastes in music as mine (XC, Mike, Bug, Kusand etc.) absolutely should pick up the new Spiritualized album. It's fantastic and absolutely deserved the Best New Music it got.

Boy, the long form video for Hey Jane is very good:

http://vimeo.com/39295354

NSFW.

Thanks for bumping this, meant to add them to my Spotify playlist based on Charlie's reco.

Do you guys actually take the Pitchfork reviews seriously? I'll check the score an album gets, but reading the actual review is almost painful.

I take them seriously, but in context. I like reading reviews and criticism because they help me articulate what I like and don't like about music. But yeah, the reviewers at Pitchfork can really be assholes, and at times bizarrely incoherent. They give lukewarm reviews to anything they deem derivative in their own subjective way, even if it's great, and absolutely destroy anything they don't like (though in fairness, often to greatly humorous effect). I find that the A/V Club at The Onion strikes a better balance between selectivity and not being pretentious dicks. I get a lot of great new music suggestions from Pitchfork though, especially the Spotify app.

[xcdudesquadloves...]

Thanks for the suggestion for Spiritualized. From what I heard today at my shitty internet connection in my Study Abroad center they were good!

[Mike B.]

Case in point on Pitchfork - in 2004, they gave a 5.2 to Hot Fuss.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/4579-hot-fuss/

Hot Fuss floats boatloads of blasé lyrics about the pressures of being fabulous and the politics of fucking over an easily sippable blend of 80s and 90s British pop influences, rarely pausing to test the end product. Top-shelf mixing and attention to melody helps out the record's appeal as lifestyle music for sheltered bloggers and female professionals who still wear cool hairstyles. But damnit if that demographic leaves little room for a life of The Killers' own. Where are they, besides their wily references to past pop pros and a vague sense of Sin City cynicism? Not anywhere, really: The Killers are just the latest band to be born too quick inside the popular music vacuum, where expectations for broad accessibility kill dudes' potential for deeper creativity quite fabulously dead.

Seriously, get fucked. What does any of the above actually mean?

I only thought to look this particular review up after they announced today that the Killers' saxophonist (yes, they apparently had one) committed suicide in Las Vegas. As one of the commenters said, way too may puns in that one.

This post has been edited by Mike B.: Apr 26 2012, 02:25 PM

[xcdudesquadloves...]

Let's just take a break from how pretentious pitchfork can be and just remember how great a song this was

[bloodorange]

Live Through This and Celebrity Skin are great albums (not familiar with their first). Was organizing my CD collection over the weekend, and completely forgot that I owned a copy of the latter.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. ugh, man. yes. (I don't own Celebrity Skin so cannot emphatically agree.)

[Puckforbrains]

Case in point on Pitchfork - in 2004, they gave a 5.2 to Hot Fuss.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/4579-hot-fuss/

Hot Fuss floats boatloads of blasé lyrics about the pressures of being fabulous and the politics of fucking over an easily sippable blend of 80s and 90s British pop influences, rarely pausing to test the end product. Top-shelf mixing and attention to melody helps out the record's appeal as lifestyle music for sheltered bloggers and female professionals who still wear cool hairstyles. But damnit if that demographic leaves little room for a life of The Killers' own. Where are they, besides their wily references to past pop pros and a vague sense of Sin City cynicism? Not anywhere, really: The Killers are just the latest band to be born too quick inside the popular music vacuum, where expectations for broad accessibility kill dudes' potential for deeper creativity quite fabulously dead.

Seriously, get fucked. What does any of the above actually mean?

I only thought to look this particular review up after they announced today that the Killers' saxophonist (yes, they apparently had one) committed suicide in Las Vegas. As one of the commenters said, way too may puns in that one.

It means the lyrics suck, have no depth, and the music never really challenges anything below the surface. That the blogger hipsters pigeonhole the band into being some sort of manufactured pop music fad, never allowing them to dig deeper into their creativity and becoming the awesome band they really could be.

Or not.

[Mike B.]

I think that makes less sense than the Pitchfork version.

[toph]

I think that makes less sense than the Pitchfork version.

Word. Did the game start yet?

[Puckforbrains]

I think that makes less sense than the Pitchfork version.

Sorry, I'm no good at assisting the mentally challenged.

[Mike B.]

I think that makes less sense than the Pitchfork version.

Sorry, I'm no good at assisting the mentally challenged.

Are you talking about me, or Pitchfork?

If you're being serious, how do blogger hipsters (assuming you could ever identify that demographic) pigeonhole anyone, or in Pitchfork's words, what exactly is lifestyle music for female professionals who "still" wear cool hairstyles?

[Puckforbrains]

I think that makes less sense than the Pitchfork version.

Sorry, I'm no good at assisting the mentally challenged.

Are you talking about me, or Pitchfork?

If you're being serious, how do blogger hipsters (assuming you could ever identify that demographic) pigeonhole anyone, or in Pitchfork's words, what exactly is lifestyle music for female professionals who "still" wear cool hairstyles?

Initially you, for even bothering to read reviews on Pitchfork. However, they do exactly what they state the 'hipster bloggers' do when they immediately compare a band to another. You pigeonhole them into being the next 'whatever is hot' band. I'm guilty of it as well. When someone says 'the next Smashing Pumpkins' or the next Zeppelin, you're drawing comparisons.

That said, the way I interpret or translate Pitchfork's review, I think its spot on about a band like the Killers.

To answer your question, about females who still wear cool hairstyles - I believe they are talking about the type of people who sit around the water cooler talking about their tan, hair, how sore they are from working out, the latest gossip from Housewives of NJ/NY/CA, etc. Think shallow people.

That's my take even if it makes less sense.

[Sed]

I think that makes less sense than the Pitchfork version.

Sorry, I'm no good at assisting the mentally challenged.

Are you talking about me, or Pitchfork?

I don't know, but I'm totally ganking this idea to develop a show about a mentally challenged lawyer. Working title is Writ of Man-Dumbass.

[xcdudesquadloves...]

Outlining playlist:

Old Crow Medicine Show - Wagon Wheel
Gotye - Somebody I Used to Know
White Stripes - Icky Thump

That's pretty much it. It's working.

Paper Writing playlist:
Gotye - Somebody I used to know
Odd Future - Rella
The Rapture's 2003 masterpiece: Echoes (full album)
The Wombats - Our Perfect Disease
Tyler the Creator - Tron Cat
Odd Future - NY(Ned Flanders)
Joy Formidable -Whirring

play on repeat until done.

[Mike B.]

Initially you, for even bothering to read reviews on Pitchfork. However, they do exactly what they state the 'hipster bloggers' do when they immediately compare a band to another. You pigeonhole them into being the next 'whatever is hot' band. I'm guilty of it as well. When someone says 'the next Smashing Pumpkins' or the next Zeppelin, you're drawing comparisons.

That said, the way I interpret or translate Pitchfork's review, I think its spot on about a band like the Killers.

To answer your question, about females who still wear cool hairstyles - I believe they are talking about the type of people who sit around the water cooler talking about their tan, hair, how sore they are from working out, the latest gossip from Housewives of NJ/NY/CA, etc. Think shallow people.

That's my take even if it makes less sense.

OK, not sure what that dig is for, but fine. I really thought you were attempting satire with that first post. Even assuming that's all true though, what does that have to do with the music? This is part of my problem with them. They slag off on anything that they deem to be too popular for reasons that are ultimately unrelated to the music itself.

As I said above, I like them because I learn about a lot of interesting music through their publication. I also don't mind high standards and snark. Kusand and I were laughing offline about how they eviscerated the Airborne Toxic Event album. I posted a link a few pages back to their "review" of Jet's latest album, which consisted of a YouTube clip of a monkey peeing in his mouth. At least, however, those are statements on the merits of the music itself, instead of some vague statement of animosity toward the people who happen to like it.

[Puckforbrains]

Even assuming that's all true though, what does that have to do with the music? This is part of my problem with them. They slag off on anything that they deem to be too popular for reasons that are ultimately unrelated to the music itself.

I can make the connections in what they are saying, I just may not be able to word it in an articulate manner.

The way I interpret the Killers review, they blame shallow people for liking the shallow music. Essentially, perpetuating crappy music and keeping the band from becoming a better band All because the shallow people supporting them are providing them with success, the band doesn't need to have to work too hard to be successful. Ultimately leaving us with a mediocre product.

[Mike B.]

Even assuming that's all true though, what does that have to do with the music? This is part of my problem with them. They slag off on anything that they deem to be too popular for reasons that are ultimately unrelated to the music itself.

I can make the connections in what they are saying, I just may not be able to word it in an articulate manner.

The way I interpret the Killers review, they blame shallow people for liking the shallow music. Essentially, perpetuating crappy music and keeping the band from becoming a better band All because the shallow people supporting them are providing them with success, the band doesn't need to have to work too hard to be successful. Ultimately leaving us with a mediocre product.

OK, I see that, but I think that's a tenuous connection at best. Plus, it adds an extra level of subjectivity to an analysis that is already loaded with it. If that's their style, fine, know their biases, but I just don't like it. They like lots of acts over there that probably have a lot of shallow fans, so what's the difference there? When the music is good, the shallow fans don't affect it, but when the music is bad, they do?

[Puckforbrains]

Even assuming that's all true though, what does that have to do with the music? This is part of my problem with them. They slag off on anything that they deem to be too popular for reasons that are ultimately unrelated to the music itself.

I can make the connections in what they are saying, I just may not be able to word it in an articulate manner.

The way I interpret the Killers review, they blame shallow people for liking the shallow music. Essentially, perpetuating crappy music and keeping the band from becoming a better band All because the shallow people supporting them are providing them with success, the band doesn't need to have to work too hard to be successful. Ultimately leaving us with a mediocre product.

OK, I see that, but I think that's a tenuous connection at best. Plus, it adds an extra level of subjectivity to an analysis that is already loaded with it. If that's their style, fine, know their biases, but I just don't like it. They like lots of acts over there that probably have a lot of shallow fans, so what's the difference there? When the music is good, the shallow fans don't affect it, but when the music is bad, they do?

I think we can agree we dislike Pitchfork.

[Mike B.]

I don't, though!

I just dislike their biases sometimes. As I said above, I hear about a lot of great new music from them.


Anyway, moving on, fired up the Mark Lanegan album last night, and loved it on first listen. Bluesy, dark stuff, but with some weird effects, and his signature raspy vocals. I liked the Scream Trees CD way back when, and I knew that he had some highly regarded solo work, but had never really given any of it a try.

[Mike B.]

And the A/V Club and Pitchfork both panned it oh nooooooo!

[rightbug]

And the A/V Club and Pitchfork both panned it oh nooooooo!

I panned it as well

http://rightbug.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/m...-blues-funeral/

[toph]

[the old mole]

Sirius XMU...they just did a block of classic 4AD stuff: Pixies, Throwing Muses, Cocteau Twins, Pale Saints.

[Mike B.]

Sirius XMU...they just did a block of classic 4AD stuff: Pixies, Throwing Muses, Cocteau Twins, Pale Saints.

As I said earlier, I've been paying more attention to labels for artists that I've been digging lately. 4AD is probably the best one going right now. Couldn't ask for more from an indie fan's perspective.

[Charlie]

I often agree with Pitchfork's grades, but I rarely read their reviews.

Hey Jane is one of the best songs I've heard in a long time.

[Mike B.]

Hey Jane is one of the best songs I've heard in a long time.

Yeah, was gonna say, thanks for the Spiritualized tip, liking that album more and more on each listen. "Hey Jane" is definitely the standout so far. Also "Heading for the Top Now."


Meanwhile, listening to their new collaboration with Ke$ha last night, I think I can now say that I officially strongly dislike the Flaming Lips.

This post has been edited by Mike B.: Apr 30 2012, 10:37 AM

[jburns]

Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville. I demand that you blow the dust off, buy a copy, Spotify, YouTube or any other form of media download.

And it's true that I stole your lighter! And it's also true that I lost the map.

[Sed]

Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville. I demand that you blow the dust off, buy a copy, Spotify, YouTube or any other form of media download.

And it's true that I stole your lighter! And it's also true that I lost the map.

God, what a fucking great album!

[Puckforbrains]

Hey Jane is one of the best songs I've heard in a long time.

Yeah, was gonna say, thanks for the Spiritualized tip, liking that album more and more on each listen. "Hey Jane" is definitely the standout so far. Also "Heading for the Top Now."

Are Spiritualized still shoe-gazers?They always sounded to me like The Cure took a few sleeping pills.

Meanwhile, listening to their new collaboration with Ke$ha last night, I think I can now say that I officially strongly dislike the Flaming Lips.

THIS was what pushed you to this level of dislike?

[jburns]

Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville. I demand that you blow the dust off, buy a copy, Spotify, YouTube or any other form of media download.

And it's true that I stole your lighter! And it's also true that I lost the map.

God, what a fucking great album!

If anyone saw me on 287 this morning, they would have wrapped me in a white coat. Singing at the top of my lungs.

Its coooooooooooooooooooooooolld, out there.
And rouuggggggggggggggggggggggggggggh.

And IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII kept standing, 6'1" instead of 5'2".
And I loved my life.
And I hated you!

This post has been edited by jburns: Apr 30 2012, 10:59 AM

[Mike B.]

Hey Jane is one of the best songs I've heard in a long time.

Yeah, was gonna say, thanks for the Spiritualized tip, liking that album more and more on each listen. "Hey Jane" is definitely the standout so far. Also "Heading for the Top Now."

Are Spiritualized still shoe-gazers?They always sounded to me like The Cure took a few sleeping pills.

Kinda, yeah, but I would say they're more low-fi than the Cure. I love distortion and buzz.

Meanwhile, listening to their new collaboration with Ke$ha last night, I think I can now say that I officially strongly dislike the Flaming Lips.

THIS was what pushed you to this level of dislike?

I always thought that I just didn't get it or hadn't listened enough, and maybe it would eventually click for me. When I heard that last night, I was like, "yeah, no. I'm done trying."

[rightbug]

I made a playlist featuring days of the week. Six week's worth, actually:

http://open.spotify.com/user/rightbug/play...U40Gg6DsQXNIwz7

I left off songs I hate. Here's week one:

Sunday Morning Wednesday Night — Spoon
I Don’t Like Monday’s — The Boomtown Rats
Sun Comes Up, It’s Tuesday Morning — Cowboy Junkies
Waiting For Wednesday — Lisa Loeb
Like a Summer Thursday — Alela Diane
Friday XIII — Deer Tick
Saturday — Built To Spill

[Puckforbrains]

You can stream Jack Whites 'Blunderbuss' on Itunes - I think it's pretty fantastic.

Yeah, I've been listening to it for the past 24 hours and it's great.

Can't stop listening. I think I'm addicted to it. I like each and every song on the entire album.

[Kusand]

A bluegrass cover of Rebellion (Lies).

[hoser]

Their 6 track EP is on Spotify and is definitely worth a listen if you like this song.

[Mike B.]

For the bluegrass/roots folk amongst us, Sara Watkins' new album is up for streaming now. Just fired it up.

http://www.npr.org/2012/04/29/151226896/fi...un-midnight-sun

I liked the work she did with Nickel Creek, and also when she was out playing live with the Decemberists filling in for Jenny Conlee. There's a duet with Fiona Apple on this new album, should be interesting.

[rightbug]

The first single off the new Metric album is streaming on their website:

http://ilovemetric.com/

So much new music!!!

[xcdudesquadloves...]

[Mike B.]

This song is now stuck in my head:



/inside mod joke

/on several levels

[rightbug]

[Dunc]

Was wondering if anyone here had any opinions on Rocket Juice and the Moon - kind of surprised not to see any posts.

Sort of off-topic, but watched Gotye on (dvr'd) SNL and Kimbra was so 'method' that she actually appeared to be crying during "Someone I used to Know". That in turn made me google her and I found an amazing clip of her performing solo and outdoors at SWSX (I think) a la KT Tunstall with "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree".

This post has been edited by Dunc: May 2 2012, 03:36 PM

[Mike B.]

I wonder if people know that your Spotify friends can see what you're listening to. I've learned a lot about some of my friends.