I don't get how a smart man like him can become a total idiot at times. Honestly. Yeah i am not liking one bit what he is doing, but this is outside of that. This is just.........idiotic. Seriously, wtf, O?


iPad and the such are the DEVIL!!!!

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But seriously modern technology is great, but sometimes people are right when they say it is detaching people from society.

I'm not some Obama apologist, but I think what he's saying is that sometimes there can be too much information out there, and it can become a distraction.

He's probably right about that, too.

I don't see how this makes Obama a total idiot. I'll tell you right now that most kids in college are much more concerned with their friend's spring break pictures on Facebook and new apps for their iPhone than what's going on in our country and the world. Obama's right: rumors and crazy claims can quickly be seen as truth thanks to social networking. It is important for people in my generation to be able to discern truth from fiction.

Do you just read headlines of articles and immediately think that Obama is an idiot? I'm no Obama fan, but I agree with his assessment here. It's not even political!

Do you just read headlines?



How is he wrong?

Great minds think alike!

why the face???

I think the article claims that "President Obama declared war on technology yesterday" are a wee bit of an exaggeration, given that the article cites two quotes, and somehow expands it to "lobbing more grenades than 'Call of Duty.'" Basically he said they're making information into a distraction rather than a tool. I think that's unfair to the devices - they're good for more than that for sure - but it's hardly a war on technology.

It's the NY Post, Kus. Of course it's a little sensationalized.

B-b-b-but he meant that the iPad is the DEVIL!!!! Obama is so dumb!!! This is just another example of how he's a stupidhead!!!!

I did read the article, and yeah the headline is exaggerated. But, it's idiotic. I've had classmates that were friggin geniuses with 4.0 GPAs be constantly on the phone checking out facebook. He is saying that these technologies are putting unnecessary pressure on the country. That's idiotic. There's no proof of that. Yeah, some people are obsessed, but these technologies, such as the iPad, can also be used as educational tools.

I thought it was idiotic to make such points.

Man, how times don't change!

That was from the thread where 101 also told me I voted for Obama.

I am curious if a conservative made the same point if you would be so quick to call them idiotic. Of course you will say you would to defend yourself but down deep you know a thread would of never been made.

That supports his point, they are distracted by facebook. The 4.0 is irrelevant, since there are many classes that you don't have to pay attention in to do well, as long as you can get the required information from the book.

Hyperbole

Well, since i am in favor of technology growth and all the new gadgets, i believe, are beneficial to our future............YEAH. I would say the same thing. I mean, i do not like that there are people that are so obsessed with technological tools, such as the iPhone and they can't stop texting stupid things, but who am i, or anyone, to judge that it is detrimental to the country? It's a stupid thing to say.

That's not true. You're basing that on your thought that has no basis, because when it comes to applying things that you learn in real current events, to a professor, the textbook doesn't usually help you with that. Also, these are people that tutored.

So in the end, his point is a porous generalization.

Also, this is the same guy that used these technological advances for his own campaign, but he is claiming that they are detrimental to the country. I'm sure that if the iPad allowed Obama to do cool campaign plans it wouldn't be detrimental, right?

It was stupid. That's all i am saying. It was an idiotic point to make. No basis. No point. Of major unimportance. You know what is a distraction? Our fucking economy with graduates thinking "geee, i hope i'll find a job now that there are millions of people without jobs and can't find a job." That is a distraction. Not Steve Jobb's grand idea of a cool tech item, or the facebook that was greatly used to win a presidential campaign. Gee...did that facebook page distract students of 18 years of age or older then?

It was a dumb.

EDIT:

It was a dumb.

The 2009-2010 New York Rangers: It Was A Dumb.

lol, forgot to take out "a" in that phrase! Eeesh......friggin professors still nag me even AFTER i graduated :P

101, you're missing his point. His point is not based on the technology itself but on the use of it. A lot of people view them as toys, not devices where you can get useful information and make changes in this world. And people view the information they're getting as entertainment, not something important to help change their lives or the lives of others. Look at the quote above. Those are some powerful tools, but he's saying people are using those tools the wrong way.

The day is drawing near that I'm going to just chuck someone's phone out the window. I especially love the dolts that try to text under the desk - "you want to stop doing that, Johnny - you'll go blind."

What? That does not even make sense.

splain Lucy

It's Obama's fault that unemployment is high.

Nowadays I just chuckle at what the president says, but let me ask you this? Other than entertaiment purpose, what other usage do you find for XBox and Playstation? A strong case can be made for the value broung to the user by the IPod and IPad. The president has in many ocassions noted the importance of his Blackberry to his daily life, which I can relate to and understand. Therefore, why not also be critical of it usage by some block of the population?
In my estimation, he used 4 technological devices that in many situations do not relate to the message he is trying to convey here.

Yeah, I'm one of those kids sometimes. It's not that I don't enjoy lectures, it's just that I HAVE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON ON TWITTER RIGHT THIS SECOND!

People keep wanting to focus on the technology he mentioned rather than the message he was sending. I agree about the xbox and Playstation. But insert any technological device, the message about how people aren't using information properly today (as entertainment rather than as something more useful) stays the same. He's telling graduates to take a more active role in society rather than sitting and watching it pass by on *insert device here*. It's a message I happen to agree with and have agreed with for a long time.

But, but, but...I'm live tweeting your lecture!
Wait, let me get on ustream and live broadcast it from my phone!

And here is where is gets dandy. If I am going to be lectured by the president and be asked to take a more prominent role, doesn't he ought to suggest how? Furthermore, I think the graduates he was talking to already played a role in today's society. 18 months ago, they decided to vote for Mr. Obama's ideals and call for change. What exactly is he asking that tthey didn't do 18 months ago.
Anyone with a virtue to speak eloquently can throw generalities out there and the president is not the exeption in this case.

This is nothing that thousands of parents in this country don't say everyday amongst themselves. I take psychology and education classes every day and not one class goes by where a point is not made about young people today relying too much on social networking and technology and gadgets and how it detaches them from reality.



And for every one of those there's ten Paris-Hilton wannabes with no college education and 4,000 friends on facebook who do nothing but tweet useless info allday. What's your point?

NEWSFLASH: This statement has been made by every generations parents since TV. 101 - as usual you feed the hyperbole machine - ala Glen Beck and the other Faux News asswipes that are hellbent on polarizing the nation until an all out war ensues.



Next.

Holy shit, people. It was a commencement speech. That's it! We're scrutinizing a single line from what was probably a boring-ass commencement where a bunch of students were told to go forth and BE AWESOME. Why does it matter? On the one side we have a moron writer equating the line with WAR ON TECHNOLOGY and on the other we have people who DON'T LIKE FACEBOOK. Yaaaaaaaaaay.

Taking a potshot at Xboxes and Playstations was a waste of a throwaway line where he tried to encourage some 21 year olds to be, like, totally engaged with society. In, again, a commencement speech. Have a sense of proportion, people.


Personally, I'll go with Ta-Nehisi Coates here:

There are TOO good old days, Coates! Pepperidge Farm REMEMBERS!

There was a Sunday NY Times article a few weeks ago on the subject that I didn't get a chance to read.

Too busy tweeting, no doubt.

How is it not true? They are on their smart phones, distracted, instead of paying attention to the class.

Too busy drinking chai tea....and tweeting about it.

It was on the counter in Starbucks and I never got back to it online.

Well, last time i checked, the Xbox and PS3, and the such, are entertainment items. Facebook could be seen as entertainment as well. The iPad has multimedia programs and entertainment features as well as educational features. His quote makes no sense. I know what you're saying and you're making a better point than he did, but to talk to graduates about this is flat out stupid. How are those products, such as PS3 and XBox, putting pressure on the country? Remember, he did not just talk about the people using these items the way they are, he directed his criticism towards Apple, Microsoft, etc...

Come on checkie, stop looking at one part of this. Yes, you are right he took a shot at the way people use these items. But, so what? People are free to use these tools for their own personal reasons, no? How is that putting any pressure on the economy? Do you realize how stupid that is? In other words, despite businesses in the US profiting by selling these items, thus improving investor confidence in the industry, thus widening the success of the industry, thus the prospect of job creation, it is still putting pressure on the country?

How else are you supposed to use PS3? Oh look, i am 16 and i want to learn something today! Let me buy an educational PS3 game to learn something that will make me smarter!

I got his point, which was stupid, and it was pointless because it was stupid and makes no sense with the main point he was trying to make, which was that such products put pressure on the country.

I was 15 when i told my dad and brother (i could not be included in the account because i was under 18) to buy EA stocks. Why? The games were kick ass, i saw an incredible future with that company. We profited from those stocks.

Yeah.....so much pressure on the country....

Microsoft, Apple, PS3, etc... they are not putting pressure on this country, and being a distraction. These are companies that actually give the prospect of creating jobs and improving the future of this country's economy.

What the real distraction to this country is, is the economy itself. You are graduating..... you will be looking for a job and you got the president of the USA coming to talk to you. Wouldn't you want to hear him talk more about how he will try to help you get a job rather than talk about how PS3 is a distraction to the country?

No. But, increasing government jobs and government job salaries does not help the private sector.

They're still productive, though.

You've never read their work.

I did, they even tutored, some of them.

By the way.....


Oooohhh!! Ooooh!!!! I want to be a judge too!!!!!! "But 101, have you ever beena judge?" Ummm........not really, but i acted as a judge when watching....umm...American Idol?

Seeing as you skimmed a NY Post article and got "Obama thinks iPads are the DEVIL," I think you may not be fit to post.

Edit: I like how you're also equating having been Solicitor General and the Dean of Harvard Law School with watching American Idol. Two great pieces of hyperbole in one day!

If you took that link title seriously, then i can't help ya. Ever seen the movie Waterboy? "......... the DEVIL!"

I also said that the headline exaggerated it.

If you can't read and interpret things properly, then you may not be fit to read posts.

"Can also be used as educational tools" sounds like a moonlighting business. Most of everything you do is a waste of precious time.
I have a friend who might as well be making love to his iPhone. He spends all his time with it, and that all he ever talks about, but he never, ever gets laid.

Oh the irony.

Look, you're taking this as "oh people won't buy things and that's bad for the economy." I see it as "you should use your technology wisely and make this a better country," which is a better thing than just buying things to fuel the economy. What would you rather graduates do? Be productive in society and contribute something? Or just buy a bunch of stuff and sit on their asses?

Of course, I also have a problem that we've become a society of stuff.

But you're taking one line out of an article from the New York fucking Post, one of the most sensationalistic newspapers out there.

Anything for him to say "I told you so, Obama does and says tons of dumb stuff!"

I'm just going to let the stupidity of this simmer like a fine stew for a few days, filling the rooms of Rangerland with a hearty aroma of dumbness. Just take it all in. Let the richness of the ignorance waft into your nostrils.